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VFL Finals Week 2: Carlton vs Brisbane
#81
(09-07-2022, 07:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Josh Honey was rewarded with another season and he has hardly replicated his VFL form in the seniors so it must be different criteria he was booted for IMO....maybe more personal reasons.
Yes, that's how I see the Stocker events.

If it was about football then that would be even more perplexing relative to Honey, because Honey barely even had VFL form of any note.

I was thoroughly gobsmacked when Honey got an AFL gig this season, I'd mentioned he looked weeks away, but he got a gig off the back of a couple of cheap goals, one or two Joe the Goose type scores. Actually I told a friend at the time and may have even posted here, that I thought it was because we were putting Honey on the market! Perhaps in hindsight it was purely an issue of injuries.
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#82
(09-07-2022, 07:08 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, that's how I see the Stocker events.

If it was about football then that would be even more perplexing relative to Honey, because Honey barely even had VFL form of any note!

I was thoroughly gobsmacked when Honey got a gig, actually I told a friend at the time, and may have even posted here, that I thought it was because we were putting him on the market!
A lot of inconsistencies in our list management, Im no real advocate of Setterfield but I was shocked to hear he has to wait till the end of the trade period for word on a new deal which really means he would be silly to knock back any offer from another club because there are no guarantees with us. Yet we sign Honey, promise the ageing Ed Curnow a deal and it was Setterfield who played his best games late in the season...fattening him up for trade?...maybe but lets get realistic he will be at the cheap end of the trade scale.
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#83
(09-07-2022, 07:15 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:A lot of inconsistencies in our list management, Im no real advocate of Setterfield but I was shocked to hear he has to wait till the end of the trade period for word on a new deal which really means he would be silly to knock back any offer from another club because there are no guarantees with us. Yet we sign Honey, promise the ageing Ed Curnow a deal and it was Setterfield who played his best games late in the season...fattening him up for trade?...maybe but lets get realistic he will be at the cheap end of the trade scale.

Understand that EB but if we knew who we may be likely to bring in these events may make a lot more sense?
Reality always wins in the end.
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#84
My view on all this is that Voss took a year to have a look at everyone and now is getting rid of the who he thinks are the "cannots" and keeping  who he thinks are the "cans". Simple as that.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#85
(09-07-2022, 08:36 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:My view on all this is that Voss took a year to have a look at everyone and now is getting rid of the who he thinks are the "cannots" and keeping  who he thinks are the "cans". Simple as that.

I think that is exactly what is going on G2C.  Perhaps there is a bit of "we can bring in X as an improvement on Y" too.

Some players may be fortunate in that their contract status may give them another year to try get a place among the "cans".
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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#86
(09-07-2022, 01:15 PM)DJC link Wrote:I think that is exactly what is going on G2C.  Perhaps there is a bit of "we can bring in X as an improvement on Y" too.

Some players may be fortunate in that their contract status may give them another year to try get a place among the "cans".
Voss wants them to play a specific way which is very different to how many in this group have ever played. This year was about finding who was committed enough to play his way. This preseason will be utterly brutal.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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