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Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast
#11
(08-01-2021, 05:50 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Should win this by 10 goals.
Must win this by 10 goals but have to have the right attitude, smell the blood in the water and show no mercy.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
#12
We can't get away with only midget rucks all game.  If TDK doesn't get up and I am hearing he won't then we need to get the tallest realistic option in.  Casboult if he is fit, given that Mirkov even if over his knee which he isn't expected to be is barely VFL level ATM.  If Casboult also doesn't come up then I think we need to craft a way to get Jones released from defensive duties to be first ruck with SOS a principal relief.  OMac probably been out too long to rush into the ones.  I think it comes down to Kemp or McG.  McG if he pulls up well is probably the better option as he gives versatility.  Eddie back if recovered which he seems confident of, likewise Williams although the official injury list suggests not.  Owies might be in trouble after another quiet game, assuming Murphy is a protected species.  Can't see too many others in the firing line.  I guess SPS is a chance at a return to reward him for responding in the right way to demotion, but if he is out the door at the end of the season as some have it (Gold Coast is the rumour I have heard) then is there much point?
#13
(08-01-2021, 08:46 AM)ianh link Wrote:We can't get away with only midget rucks all game.  If TDK doesn't get up and I am hearing he won't then we need to get the tallest realistic option in.  Casboult if he is fit, given that Mirkov even if over his knee which he isn't expected to be is barely VFL level ATM.  If Casboult also doesn't come up then I think we need to craft a way to get Jones released from defensive duties to be first ruck with SOS a principal relief.  OMac probably been out too long to rush into the ones.  I think it comes down to Kemp or McG.  McG if he pulls up well is probably the better option as he gives versatility.  Eddie back if recovered which he seems confident of, likewise Williams although the official injury list suggests not.  Owies might be in trouble after another quiet game, assuming Murphy is a protected species.  Can't see too many others in the firing line.  I guess SPS is a chance at a return to reward him for responding in the right way to demotion, but if he is out the door at the end of the season as some have it (Gold Coast is the rumour I have heard) then is there much point?
Mirkov is little chance, Levi if they can strap him up like a mummy might be able to contribute. Problem is he has missed how many weeks? I think we will go in with pinch hitters which is ok, just have plan A and B ready to roll.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
#14
(08-01-2021, 08:46 AM)ianh link Wrote:We can't get away with only midget rucks all game.  If TDK doesn't get up and I am hearing he won't then we need to get the tallest realistic option in.  Casboult if he is fit, given that Mirkov even if over his knee which he isn't expected to be is barely VFL level ATM.  If Casboult also doesn't come up then I think we need to craft a way to get Jones released from defensive duties to be first ruck with SOS a principal relief.  OMac probably been out too long to rush into the ones.  I think it comes down to Kemp or McG.  McG if he pulls up well is probably the better option as he gives versatility.  Eddie back if recovered which he seems confident of, likewise Williams although the official injury list suggests not.  Owies might be in trouble after another quiet game, assuming Murphy is a protected species.  Can't see too many others in the firing line.  I guess SPS is a chance at a return to reward him for responding in the right way to demotion, but if he is out the door at the end of the season as some have it (Gold Coast is the rumour I have heard) then is there much point?

Fyi, cripps is taller than McGovern.....and is soj.

So saying we should ruck gov because we can't go 2 smaller options is a little silly.
#15
I'd ruck Mcgovern, bit of a change and challenge for him and have JSOS as backup.....not so keen on Cripps rucking due to his injuries and I'd rather have him on the deck where the ball will be.
McGovern wont win many tapouts but might work Zac Smith over around the ground and take a few marks and play that old fashioned follower role. As long as we have a decent lead at 3/4 time we should be ok....wouldnt want it to be too close late as our blokes wont be jumping and Smith will still be 206cm.
Got a reasonable midfield have GC and it will be interesting to see if Rowell and Walsh lineup on each other or they tag Walsh with another player.
#16
Whe  I say I'd ruck cripps, he be as #2 ruck...and wouldn't be jumping at centre bounces. He be grounded and use his body.

He already does this in the same way Hawkins does for the cats - takes the f50 throwins and grabs it out of the ruck to have a ping at the goals.

Do the same around the ground and instead of trying to get boot to ball, get a quick handball into space where we can run onto it.
#17
(08-01-2021, 09:26 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Whe  I say I'd ruck cripps, he be as #2 ruck...and wouldn't be jumping at centre bounces. He be grounded and use his body.

He already does this in the same way Hawkins does for the cats - takes the f50 throwins and grabs it out of the ruck to have a ping at the goals.

Do the same around the ground and instead of trying to get boot to ball, get a quick handball into space where we can run onto it.
Fair enough on the F50 ping at the goals stuff, better Cripps than Harry whose ruckwork is what I would describe as dainty at best...
#18
(08-01-2021, 09:33 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Fair enough on the F50 ping at the goals stuff, better Cripps than Harry whose ruckwork is what I would describe as dainty at best...
Wouldn't you want and be better off having Cripps roving those F50 stoppages in Betts absence?

I think if Cripps is inside F50 for a stoppage and we ruck him, that is a stoppage win for the opposition!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
#19
(08-01-2021, 09:47 AM)LP link Wrote:Wouldn't you want and be better off having Cripps roving those F50 stoppages in Betts absence?

I think if Cripps is inside F50 for a stoppage and we ruck him, that is a stoppage win for the opposition!
We've been doing it all year already...or have you not noticed.

There is no need to rove the ball off the ground in a pack of 12 blokes if you have the ball in your hands already! Its not rocket science.
#20
(08-01-2021, 10:01 AM)kruddler date Wrote:We've been doing it all year already...or have you not noticed.

There is no need to rove the ball off the ground in a pack of 12 blokes if you have the ball in your hands already! Its not rocket science.
Most of that earlier in the season was Casboult with Cripps roving, in Casboult's absence whenever De Koning or Pittonet aren't there to push forward it's mostly been BigH rucking stoppages. The "all year" you refer to is basically since De Koning has been solo rucking, and even then it's only been some stoppages that Cripps has tried to ruck.

When Cripps and BigH have rucked inside F50 they've been barely effective, so we are stopping an A-Grade stoppage player from doing what he is good at to be a C-Grade ruck option.

So, I think having Cripps do that ruck work is a negative, I'd rather see SoJ ruck and have Cripps rove to it.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"


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