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Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - crashlander - 07-29-2021
We should beat Gold Coast, everything else being equal. We did it earlier this year.
Circumstances have changed. We barely have enough players to make a team. Gold Coast are playing better.
We don't know when or where the game will be held yet, just that there will be no supporters there.
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - crashlander - 07-30-2021
Cane we get a ruck to back Jack Silvagni up? It is ridiculous that he has to do the job, but did he do it! Wunderbar!
I hope one of our rucks can come up.
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - jeza - 07-30-2021
Is Oscar McDonald back yet?
He'd have to be a better ruck option than SOS.
Can Mitch McGovern play ruck?
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - WASurfer - 07-31-2021
Kemp in for Newnes and give him a taste of it next week. If McGovern gets through a VFL game this weekend then bring him in too and he can split the ruck with JSOS if TDK doesn't get up.
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - LP - 07-31-2021
(07-31-2021, 03:04 AM)WASurfer date Wrote:Kemp in for Newnes and give him a taste of it next week. If McGovern gets through a VFL game this weekend then bring him in too and he can split the ruck with JSOS if TDK doesn't get up.
They are playing McGovern on the wing running behind the ball and FB in today's 2nd qtr.
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - Thryleon - 07-31-2021
(07-31-2021, 03:04 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Kemp in for Newnes and give him a taste of it next week. If McGovern gets through a VFL game this weekend then bring him in too and he can split the ruck with JSOS if TDK doesn't get up.cripps should be rucking with jsos. No point going with a non mid. I notice Kennedy went in once or twice last night.
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - LP - 08-01-2021
(07-31-2021, 07:25 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:cripps should be rucking with jsos. No point going with a non mid. I notice Kennedy went in once or twice last night.Neither club is ruck strong at the moment, so it will be interesting to see which way we go.
Can't see Cripps rucking if he has a crook back and crook feet, that would be asking for trouble!
Any official word on De Koning yet?
McGovern was OK in VFL ruck against a couple of massive units playing for Sandi, McGovern looked small then I realised Alabakis is over 210cm and probably looks 20kg or more heavier than McGovern, didn't really time his centre bounce jumps well, but McGovern's best game aspect was marking around the ground and he had the Sandi talls covered in this respect. It was pretty windy, and not good conditions for marking talls but McGovern with Phillips did very well given the conditions.
Levi could be back this week, but would he come straight in?
McDonald was supposed to be back but now he is not, not sure what is happening there.
If we leverage our height around the ground, assuming McKay plays, even with De Koning out we should do OK.
The trick as we have seen twice already in the last 3 weeks will be to exert pressure on the ball carrier and force long/high kicks for our talls to mark or bring to ground. If we have a week off and offer no pressure on the opposition ball carrier, and it could be another shock loss because at best we will probably break even in the midfield without De Koning!
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-01-2021
(08-01-2021, 05:28 AM)LP link Wrote:Neither club is ruck strong at the moment, so it will be interesting to see which way we go.Zac Smith is 206cm but he was very average vs Gawn...I wouldnt be worried too much about the ruck, we could start Owies there and win with one leg in the air vs the Suns who are hopeless.
Can't see Cripps rucking if he has a crook back and crook feet, that would be asking for trouble!
Any official word on De Koning yet?
McGovern was OK in VFL ruck against a couple of massive units playing for Sandi, McGovern looked small then I realised Alabakis is over 210cm and probably looks 20kg or more heavier than McGovern, didn't really time his centre bounce jumps well, but McGovern's best game aspect was marking around the ground and he had the Sandi talls covered in this respect. It was pretty windy, and not good conditions for marking talls but McGovern with Phillips did very well given the conditions.
Levi could be back this week, but would he come straight in?
McDonald was supposed to be back but now he is not, not sure what is happening there.
If we leverage our height around the ground, assuming McKay plays, even with De Koning out we should do OK.
The trick as we have seen twice already in the last 3 weeks will be to exert pressure on the ball carrier and force long/high kicks for our talls to mark or bring to ground. If we have a week off and offer no pressure on the opposition ball carrier, and it could be another shock loss because at best we will probably break even in the midfield without De Koning!
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - madbluboy - 08-01-2021
Should win this by 10 goals.
Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast - kruddler - 08-01-2021
Suns will be looking to make ammends.
If we give them a sniff, we are in trouble with no rucks.
So we need to get on top early and they will fold.
Do we play Casboult? He'll be next to useless for most of the game. He'll lose the ruck but can't follow up like SOJ.
Do we play McGovern? I'd be more inclined to play him as at least he can play at either end....and he has a better leap than most.
Do we play McDonald? Not sure he is quite ready but is probably someone inbetween the other 2.
I think Cripps/SOS ruck combo is worth exploring.
No matter what we do, we won't win the ruck. So do we try and get as close as possible to 50-50 in the ruck, or do we go the complete opposite and concede the ruck but increase our ability to win the stoppages by playing a 'small ruck'. I reckon the latter.