The Defence

[PaulP]

The end of the footy told the story better of why we lost to the bulldogs.  We had Judd once.  Would win games by himself against opposition frequently irrespective of how good they were.  The bont did it again to us.  His last quarter was kouta sequence from the 99 preliminary final.

That's exactly what Cripps has been trying to do - go up a gear, inspire his team mates and lead his team to victory. Except Bont is labelled a hero and Cripps is labelled selfish.

[cookie2]

That's exactly what Cripps has been trying to do - go up a gear, inspire his team mates and lead his team to victory. Except Bont is labelled a hero and Cripps is labelled selfish.

As Dirty Harry once said "A man has to know his limitations ".

[Thryleon]

That's exactly what Cripps has been trying to do - go up a gear, inspire his team mates and lead his team to victory. Except Bont is labelled a hero and Cripps is labelled selfish.

Sometimes its as simple as you aren't as good as him and we don't need you to be.

Cripps game this season has been a bit more sacrificial and I'd wager him out and someone else in would result in negating the influence of walsh more to get a net go backwards.

Cripps has had a couple of ordinary weeks in what is his worst season yet so if he stuck to the basics and did those well he'd draw less ire and criticism for it.  Get the ball and give it.

He got the monkey off his back against the bombers and then put it straight back on against the bulldogs.  I still don't know why we don't use him like we did kouta through his struggle years.  Put him back not forward.  Its a place where he'll win more contests and build some confidence.

[ElwoodBlues1]

That's exactly what Cripps has been trying to do - go up a gear, inspire his team mates and lead his team to victory. Except Bont is labelled a hero and Cripps is labelled selfish.

Cripps role is to get the ball to the players who can be the match winners.. Bont can do both roles and be the provider and the finisher.

[capcom]

As Dirty Harry once said "A man has to know his limitations ".

"Well do ya .. punk?"

[LP]

In that video clip when Jones jogs across the CHB, our left-hand HFF, Wing & HBF has been sucked across the centre into the contest way before Jones floats across.

If they want Jones and Weitering to keep intercept marking those utilities who operate in the flank to flank zone need to float back to make up defensive numbers, or else at every contest we'll be outnumbered in defence.

If we want to maintain numbers at the contest, then it's up to our forwards to float down and potentially leave their opponents behind, but we better stop bombing the ball into F50 if we do that!

Owies gave us a perfect example of that concept of rolling back to assist in D50, and it stood out like dogs balls because we just never see Carlton players doing it!

Does all this sound familiar?

[ElwoodBlues1]

In that video clip when Jones jogs across the CHB, our left-hand HFF, Wing & HBF has been sucked across the centre into the contest way before Jones floats across.

If they want Jones and Weitering to keep intercept marking those utilities who operate in the flank to flank zone need to float back to make up defensive numbers, or else at every contest we'll be outnumbered in defence.

If we want to maintain numbers at the contest, then it's up to our forwards to float down and potentially leave their opponents behind, but we better stop bombing the ball into F50 if we do that!

Owies gave us a perfect example of that, and it stood out like dogs balls because we just never see Carlton players doing it!

Does all this sound familiar?

Spot on, this is what happens every week.........ie I saw Stocker last week forced to man Bruce up deep down back...real smart.

[LP]

Spot on, this is what happens every week.........ie I saw Stocker last week forced to man Bruce up deep down back...real smart.

Carlton fans have to be more cynical about the motives of guys like Healy and Lyon, the week before we play the Dees they are basically calling for Jones and Weitering to stop intercept marking, that is the direct consequence of doing what Healy and Lyon demand, stop doing what Lever/May do.

I'd assert that would be a worse outcome, and the best case is to have the utilities even up the numbers and leave Jones and Weitering doing a Lever/May!

PS; Above I stated what Jones did was wrong, but not wrong because of action, wrong because of location. He was in no-mans land, not deep enough off the stoppage to get an intercept mark, and too far forward to get back on his opponent. A clearing kick was going over his head and short kick wouldn't give him time to close. All he had to do was push back 10m and he'd be in a better position for covering both options and for a turnover spread if we won the footy. Of course if one of our flanks or wing had dropped D50 side across CHB that space he was guarding would have been covered forcing the Dogs to run the footy!

[kruddler]

For the plowman bashers keep an eye on how these plays both unfold.  You'll notice he's stuck covering two men by himself in both circumstances.  It happens a lot and thats why the opposition score through his man frequently.  Its not because he's crap, its because he's covering too many. 

Thank you.

I was going to say the same thing. Plowman always gets the short straw and covers for blokes. That's why he polls well in the best and fairest, because he does team things and puts amaretto on his back in the process...
But continues to do them.

[member=153]LP[/member]
Sure Jones might be playing to instruction...(I doubt it because being 25m out from the contest is in no man's land. Can't tackle players coming out of the contest because he's too far away.....but he's too close so the ball can still be kicked over his head.)
But...even if he is playing to instruction...he needs to be smart enough to know the risk/reward result of his positioning.

If it comes on, we get the turnover, great...but chance of us getting a turnover from THAT position is highly unlikely as I mentioned before.

If it doesn't come off, then we pay the ultimate price more often than not...a goal. So he's got to play the %s.
If that was plowman in that position, you can bet your butt he'd run back to cover.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Maybe if C. Curnow gets back, McGovern can be that intercept marker across half back. Kemp also when fit and ready can fit the role but both him and Parks are still learning the game and you can't expect them to be the next Jeremy Howe yet..