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[PaulP]

Nice post Baggers

https://theconversation.com/a-mental-dis...ion-151686

[kruddler]

Call me old fashioned, naive, uneducated, whatever, I wouldn't support that no matter what arguments are put up.

I've never touched an illegal drug in my life, but i wouldn't be so quick to write it off.

There are large benefits to doing that, that are not immediately obvious.

[Baggers]

Nice post Baggers

https://theconversation.com/a-mental-dis...ion-151686

Ripper article. Thank you, Pauly.

[Thryleon]

On a side note, turning point and Easternhealth did a mini documentary series on sbs or ABC and you can watch it.  Its called addicted Australia.

We get introduced to a heroin addict named rueben.  Rueben tells us a little about himself at one point.  Basically he was a store manager once.  Then the place got robbed and that was the end of that job.  Ptsd meant he couldn't return.  Became reclusive.  Drugs were an escape, and then they started to cripple him.  They became the reason he couldn't reconnect after being the escape.  Powerful stuff.

4 episodes on sbs. 

[capcom]

I can't stand drugs.  My worst experience was riding the tram home to Kew on day, and there was a young kid (couldn't have been older than 13) and he was inhaling fumes out of a bag from a can of spray paint.                 

That was truly frightening and not much shocks me anymore after witnessing that episode.

[Macca37]

If a member of my family were hit and injured by a driver affected by drugs, I just can't imagine my saying "But on a positive note, the driver was taking drugs because they had had a bad upbringing, so that will make you feel better."

There have always been people affected by having a bad upbringing, but these days the pendulum has swung too far from the individual accepting responsibility, to society in general being held to account for their problems

Where will it end if we keep pushing for drugs to be legalised and at the same time relieve people of responsibility for their actions?

[kruddler]

I can't stand drugs.  My worst experience was riding the tram home to Kew on day, and there was a young kid (couldn't have been older than 13) and he was inhaling fumes out of a bag from a can of spray paint.                 

That was truly frightening and not much shocks me anymore after witnessing that episode.

That's called 'chroming'.

I saw a similar thing on a packed train once. The guy doing it was maybe 17. Had paint all over his face while continuing to huff into his paper bag.

Another bloke, early 20's nicely dressed started up a convo with him. Gave him the whole spiel about how its no good for you and you need to turn your life around. Asking him to repeat stuff he'd just been told, asked him to repeat his name back to make sure the numpty was taking it all in. He even went as far to grab some new mangoes he'd just purchased from out of his backpack to give to this guy to help him get his life in order. The 'chromer' nodded his head, said all the right things, remembered the guys name and everything, agreed he'll stop etc etc. The smartly dressed guy got off the train first, i gave him a nod and smile of approval for his efforts and off he went.
No sooner than when his first foot stepped off the train, the chromer was huffing again like nothing had happened.

My head just dropped.

[capcom]

I knew what it was called ... I owned a hardware store at the time.

I placed a ban on all "kids" buying them without parental presence.

[northernblue]

If a member of my family were hit and injured by a driver affected by drugs, I just can't imagine my saying "But on a positive note, the driver was taking drugs because they had had a bad upbringing, so that will make you feel better."

There have always been people affected by having a bad upbringing, but these days the pendulum has swung too far from the individual accepting responsibility, to society in general being held to account for their problems

Where will it end if we keep pushing for drugs to be legalised and at the same time relieve people of responsibility for their actions?

You’ve expressed perfectly my feelings on the subject, thank you.

[Professer E]

Petrol sniffing in the outback regions is just as destructive.  Whole communities annihilated by that crap.