CV and mad panic behaviour

[DJC]

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[ElwoodBlues1]

I'd probably prefer real world data. The problem with anecdotal evidence is that it usually comes from a small sample. For instance, if you listen to anti-vax or vaccine-sceptical health workers, you'll probably get a pretty skewed version of reality. Vaccine mandates are the way to go, even if some health workers will fall by the wayside. But I'd be happy for the Govt. to throw some money into raising staffing levels.

The real world data is from hospital administrators beholding to the government's who fund them and who set targets for them to achieve and who lie to the public to protect their funding and cover up mistakes to prevent expensive payouts.
I'll stick with the people on the front line who do the work..

[LP]

The real world data is from hospital administrators beholding to the government's who fund them and who set targets for them to achieve and who lie to the public to protect their funding and cover up mistakes to prevent expensive payouts.
I'll stick with the people on the front line who do the work..

It's not a big conspiracy, the workers just see their own little section and their wider/global opinions are coloured by rumours and whispers of disenfranchised and sometimes paranoid associates.

It's the same in every big business, look at construction now held ransom by a clear minority, health is no different!

It's a weird nexus, because at the moment "The Man" has less control than ever before, not being on the ground in the trenches has greatly diminished the influence of corporate psychopaths. Yet the whisper network is worse than ever before, because that is the way the network works best not because things are better or worse than before. Now the power of "The Man" has moved into the very loud voice of the previously isolated radical who have gained a voice!

Finally, it's human nature to need someone to blame, the bad is always someone's fault, "Someone did it to me!" It's never just an outcome driven by circumstances.

Just like Dan's fault for lockdowns, Big Pharma corruption banning Ivermectin, the China virus, the Wuhan Lab, it's all finger-pointing!

[ElwoodBlues1]

It's not a big conspiracy, the workers just see their own little section and their wider/global opinions are coloured by rumours and whispers of disenfranchised and sometimes paranoid associates.

It's the same in every big business, look at construction now held ransom by a clear minority, health is no different!

It's a weird nexus, because at the moment "The Man" has less control than ever before, not being on the ground in the trenches has greatly diminished the influence of corporate psychopaths. Yet the whisper network is worse than ever before, because that is the way the network works best not because things are better or worse than before. Now the power of "The Man" has moved into the very loud voice of the previously isolated radical who have gained a voice!

Finally, it's human nature to need someone to blame, the bad is always someone's fault, "Someone did it to me!" It's never just a outcome driven by circumstances.

Just like Dan's fault for lockdowns, Big Pharma corruption banning Ivermectin, the China virus, the Wuhan Lab, it's all finger-pointing!

Nothing to do with conspiracy's.....Its the real world from the people doing the work.
The look at the wider picture and ignoring the workers at the frontline is just a lame excuse for having your head in the sand and not wanting to confront the truth and blindly support the Governments misleading lies that everything is ok.
Health is not a priority in Australia and the system is failing because it isnt being supported, we will become a replica of the system in the USA and only the wealthy will receive decent care,  that will be the bottom line.
CoVid has just exposed the cracks in a system that was falling apart already......

[capcom]

The health system is indeed stuffed in the US ... diabetics die there every day as they can't even afford insulin.  Fifth grade.

[dodge]

Thanks for your perspective, Shawny.

The playground thing punished kids for parents taking far too many liberties.  They were often full with organised catch ups, no masks or social distancing - not what was supposed to happen, which is why they were banned until the political heat got too much. 

On another note, the guy who helped organise the protests wants his legal costs covered.  Not exactly taking responsibility for your actions, is it?  I wonder how much he's going to raise, now that it's been publicised.

[LP]

Thanks for your perspective, Shawny.

The playground thing punished kids for parents taking far too many liberties.  They were often full with organised catch ups, no masks or social distancing - not what was supposed to happen, which is why they were banned until the political heat got too much.

This is my problem with it, as I see it many of the parents are using the kids as a backdoor to freedom, walking around chatting with mates, sipping from empty disposable coffee cups, filling the same from water fountains, and pretending to eat never ending apples or doughnuts so they can remain mask less. It shows how little these individuals think of everybody else!

On another note, the guy who helped organise the protests wants his legal costs covered.  Not exactly taking responsibility for your actions, is it?  I wonder how much he's going to raise, now that it's been publicised.

I doubt he'll profit from it but you never know, he'll get some support but not as much as he thinks, there are so many trying on the same tactic it's become a scam!

[Mav]

I must say I don't really care if right-wingers rip off other right-wingers. That's the game on that side of the fence. The rich guys somehow persuade the poor guys to give them money. Best example is Trump. He went from ripping off property tycoon wannabees by enrolling them in "Trump University" and his most recent gig is to monetise the Big Lie, getting average Joes & Janes to contribute to his "legal fighting fund" (which he doesn't have to spend on lawyers). He even came up with an admittedly ingenious tactic of hiding a check box on the donation page so unwitting small dollar donors who thought they were making a one-off contribution ended up making weekly payments. The deplorables are just sheep who are going to be shorn. If they aren't shorn by 1 guy, sure enough they'll be shorn by another. Grifters gonna grift.

[Mav]

There's hope there's finally a pill which can treat Covid. Surprise, surprise, it ain't Ivermectin. These pills are anti-viral: they work against viruses ... which Ivermectin doesn't do.

A pill to treat Covid-19: 'We're talking about a return to, maybe, normal life', CNN

"Oral antivirals have the potential to not only curtail the duration of one's covid-19 syndrome, but also have the potential to limit transmission to people in your household if you are sick," said Timothy Sheahan, a virologist at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill who has helped pioneer these therapies.

Antivirals are already essential treatments for other viral infections, including hepatitis C and HIV. One of the best known is Tamiflu, the widely prescribed pill that can shorten the duration of influenza and reduce the risk of hospitalization if given quickly.

The medications, developed to treat and prevent viral infections in people and animals, work differently depending on the type. But they can be engineered to boost the immune system to fight infection, block receptors so viruses can't enter healthy cells, or lower the amount of active virus in the body.

At least three promising antivirals for covid are being tested in clinical trials, with results expected as soon as late fall or winter, said Carl Dieffenbach, director of the Division of AIDS at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who is overseeing antiviral development.

"I think that we will have answers as to what these pills are capable of within the next several months," Dieffenbach said.

The top contender is a medication from Merck & Co. and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics called molnupiravir, Dieffenbach said. This is the product being tested in the Kellys' Seattle trial. Two others include a candidate from Pfizer, known as PF-07321332, and AT-527, an antiviral produced by Roche and Atea Pharmaceuticals.

They work by interfering with the virus's ability to replicate in human cells. In the case of molnupiravir, the enzyme that copies the viral genetic material is forced to make so many mistakes that the virus can't reproduce. That, in turn, reduces the patient's viral load, shortening infection time and preventing the kind of dangerous immune response that can cause serious illness or death.

So far, only one antiviral drug, remdesivir, has been approved to treat covid. But it is given intravenously to patients ill enough to be hospitalized, and is not intended for early, widespread use. By contrast, the top contenders under study can be packaged as pills.

[LP]

There are two big problems with anti-virals as far as I can tell.

Firstly, most work best when given very early, that means a massive increase in screening/testing for early signs of infection.

Secondly, the few being tested at the moment are horrendously expensive, meaning doctors are hesitant to prescribe them.

The most recent drugs approved cost above $2500 per course of treatment like Sotrovimab(Intravenous), this new Molnupiravir drug greatly reduces that cost but is still about $1000 per treatment. Still that is at least 1/10th the cost of basic hospitalisation.

The trick seems to be combine the use of these drugs with vaccination, vaccination slows the development of disease enough that you can get a detection in time to treat with the anti-virals which then greatly reduces hospitalisations.