Where do you think Carlton will finish in 2017?

[Shakin77]

It wont be pretty this year.

I want to see development though.

Agree

15th-18th

Hopefully we don't do anything stupid and sack the Coach if we finish bottom 2.

[Lods]

We wont sack him (yet)...but I bet we wont love him as much if that's where we finish.

[sydneybluesfan]

3 out of 4 commentators On the Couch Tonight had us finishing with the spoon. I think we will likely finish bottom 2.

While I am an eternal optimist, I think this year the true horror of our drafting over the period 2010-2014 will really hit us between the eyes.

In 12/13/14 we made 29 selections [ex rookie upgrades from previous years] of which Cripps & Doc are stars, the 2 irish boys show promise. The next best is Boekherst!!!

Guys like Everett, Jones, KJ, Tutt, Smith and Foster were recruited to help build a forward line - all gone. Even if we had a 30% hit rate we would 8 solid AFL players with 50 odd games coming into their prime. Instead we have less than half that, and no forward line players whom can kick goals from those 3 drafts. So we have a huge hole in our list that we are now trying fill with players who have mostly played less than 20 games.

Thats why my expectations are very low this year - we are coming from miles back.

[DJC]

3 out of 4 commentators On the Couch Tonight had us finishing with the spoon. I think we will likely finish bottom 2.

While I am an eternal optimist, I think this year the true horror of our drafting over the period 2010-2014 will really hit us between the eyes.

In 12/13/14 we made 29 selections [ex rookie upgrades from previous years] of which Cripps & Doc are stars, the 2 irish boys show promise. The next best is Boekherst!!!

Guys like Everett, Jones, KJ, Tutt, Smith and Foster were recruited to help build a forward line - all gone. Even if we had a 30% hit rate we would 8 solid AFL players with 50 odd games coming into their prime. Instead we have less than half that, and no forward line players whom can kick goals from those 3 drafts. So we have a huge hole in our list that we are now trying fill with players who have mostly played less than 20 games.

Thats why my expectations are very low this year - we are coming from miles back.

As they did last year, and no-one anticipated our 2015 spoon!

[PaulP]

If you check out the poll at the top of this thread, you will see an uncanny parallel between the views of our members, and those of the journos. Most in both groups have us near the bottom, with a few thinking we can do better. Whether one group is influencing the other, or whether they both influence each other, I know not.

[LP]

If you check out the poll at the top of this thread, you will see an uncanny parallel between the views of our members, and those of the journos. Most in both groups have us near the bottom, with a few thinking we can do better. Whether one group is influencing the other, or whether they both influence each other, I know not.

The media are professional, they haven't missed the polls that sites like this one run. They in the business of giving the public what they want, except for The Hun and issues relating to CheatsFC.

[Lods]

It's logical
The club are actively pushing a "no great expectations, we'll give it a go, but the main positive in 2017 will be watching the kids develop" line.

When the commentators (and supporters) look at that they think "OK that's Carlton out of it. But we can probably expect improvement out of everyone else that finished below them except perhaps Brisbane...and no-one is going to drop far enough that Carlton will overtake them."
17th or 18th!

But ladder positions aren't decided in March

[Professer E]

More than a couple on this site foresaw the poor 2015 before the season started.

[Gointocarlton]

Lets not lose sight of the fact that BB, SOS and co. have been at this rebuild one year!! Take the WB's for example, McCartney started all the good work from 2012 to 2014. Beveridge finished it off so to speak in 2016 (a year or two ahead of schedule IMO). So five years in and they hit the jackpot. I am confident the path is set and BB/SOS will not deviate or be swayed, especially by the likes of media muppets such as Lloyd. Smug prick thinks he is so smart, if he was any good, he'd be in a coaching role somewhere. Instead, he chooses to sit in a chair and take pot shots at people a lot more capable and a lot smarter than he is.

[Thryleon]

We wont sack him (yet)...but I bet we wont love him as much if that's where we finish.

Our club MUST go through this process where this occurs, and questions are asked of the coach.

Its bound to happen where we stick to our process in spite of everyone telling us how poorly he is doing and that he is sacked, and only then will I have confidence in our club that we know what we are doing.

Its about time this happens where we know what we are doing despite what everyone has to say about it.

Until it occurs (and Im hoping it will be this year when we are not expecting much) expect not a lot.