Where do you think Carlton will finish in 2017?

[LP]

The kids need to be assessed individually and with care. Some will be ready before others. There may be some teams (weaker, less agro teams), against which we can field more youngsters than others.

But that is my point PaulP, controlled exposure means a handful of cherry-picked games. Many supporters will translate that, with the help of the media, as those youth not being good enough.

On where we will finish, I implore supporters to try taking another perspective of our list management.  Too many people make an analogy of our team towards a list full of GWS and other rejects. But consider this, the recruiting by SOS is more like that of the early GC team, but from a starting position with far more AFL ready seasoned players than GC hand on hand.

So I expect equal or better than 2016, it's not unreasonable when judging from this other perspective. We've lost little influential talent in the 2016 off-season, but according to Buckenara gain plenty! From my amateur assessment, our list depth has improved significantly in most areas except the ruck.

[PaulP]

Hopefully the club can communicate our strategy in a clear and unambiguous way, so as to avoid or minimize those neurotic reactions. 

[LP]

Hopefully the club can communicate our strategy in a clear and unambiguous way, so as to avoid or minimize those neurotic reactions.

Isn't that sort of reaction exactly what Lloyd's article was meant to encourage, do supporters really think he was trying to assist?

[PaulP]

Isn't that sort of reaction exactly what Lloyd's article was meant to encourage, do supporters really think he was trying to assist?

Speaking for me personally, I'm well versed in reacting neurotically at even the slightest provocation. I don't need Lloyd's help.

[Professer E]

Maybe Lloyd could critically analyse the "vitamins" program at his former club and butt the %)% out of ours.

[Pratty]

But that is my point PaulP, controlled exposure means a handful of cherry-picked games. Many supporters will translate that, with the help of the media, as those youth not being good enough.

On where we will finish, I implore supporters to try taking another perspective of our list management.  Too many people make an analogy of our team towards a list full of GWS and other rejects. But consider this, the recruiting by SOS is more like that of the early GC team, but from a starting position with far more AFL ready seasoned players than GC hand on hand.

So I expect equal or better than 2016, it's not unreasonable when judging from this other perspective. We've lost little influential talent in the 2016 off-season, but according to Buckenara gain plenty! From my amateur assessment, our list depth has improved significantly in most areas except the ruck.

Solids assessment. I do agree with plenty fo this. I am glass half-full too, and reckon we can do some damage this year. We, like all other clubs, need a healthy list and with our good players available each week.

[shadesy]

It wont be pretty this year.

I want to see development though.

[Thryleon]

Silvagni has already warned fans the Blues may face a “rocky road” this season and is no guarantee to notch as many victories as last year.

I agree with SOS but when you are hunting for members early on in the season I wouldnt have been so direct and sold a bit more hope....media like Matthew Lloyd are already all over the list, predicting failure and laying blame at the feet of SOS for his GWS recruiting theme .
Its like we have given it away for the year and are just waiting for the trade and draft period again....I'm a realist and accept our position but I think we have to sell the rebuild better and not allow numpties like Lloyd a free hit....

The thing is, the club is not wrong to be eyeing the next trade period already and to a degree, putting the thing away until that happens.  They have done what they can for this season, and now its time to see the results of previous years work.

Its a cultural and mentality shift, that our footy club requires to get everyone pulling in the right direction.

i.e.  What happens on the field is simply a measure of how the players and football department perform over this season.  The work they put in, will translate to their position on the ladder, and finals football (if any) is a reward for the efforts put in across the season.

Once the season is done, its done.

I don't see why we will change strategy overly from what we have been doing which means that no one's future is set in stone, but we are already looking at where we need to add youth, and where we need to recruit some mature agers to gap fill holes in our team.  All that changes is which names go at the end of the season.

[flyboy77]

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_...statistics

[LP]

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_...statistics

Shows you how hard our list will be to peg down, not just for us supporters but for the opposition as well.

The thing I like most is the comparison;
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The UBET rating shows you just how forked CheatsFC supporters really are!

Note statistically 50% of teams in the bottom 4 change each year!
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