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Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper?
#21
The controversy continues:

Quote:One of the doctors involved in the highly anticipated rematch between boxers Anthony Mundine and Danny Green has slammed the decision to continue the fight after Green was concussed in the first round.

Ringside doctor Lou Lewis said he quit his role mid-fight last Friday night because his opinion was ignored.

In a fight within a fight, the two doctors present disagreed about whether Green was fit to continue after being caught off guard by a Mundine blow.

Despite four decades of ringside experience, Dr Lewis was overruled by Dr John O'Neill and the referee.

"I was saying ... the fight should be stopped, I don't want it to go on ... [but] I didn't want to have a fight in the ring with another doctor," Dr Lewis said.

"I said to the referee: 'Are you stopping the fight?' The referee said 'No' ... [and] I said: 'I'm having nothing more to do with this fight'."

Another blow 'could have been fatal'

Other medical experts also have expressed a view the injured boxer was in danger.

"Another serious blow when he's already concussed, it is no exaggeration to say, could have been fatal," Dr Michael Gannon of the Australian Medical Association said.

Green admitted he was concussed after one round but said he had wanted to fight on.

"I'm just going 'let's fight, let's fight, I'm good to go' because that's what you do if you're a warrior," he told the media this week.

"You just do that. You wanna fight, you don't know what the rules are — mate I didn't know if I was Arthur or Martha."

Dr Peter Lewis of the Australasian Ringside Medicine Association also backed the view that the fight should have ended early.

"I'll give you a straight answer, I think I would have called the fight off," he said.

"When you've suffered a blow like that you're concussed so you're not really able to make rational decisions in your own self interest."

Green fought on for nine more rounds and won the bout and a multi-million-dollar prize for his efforts.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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#22
Dr Lewis should find another sport to work in.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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#23
It seems the issue isn't so black and white, ............

although I bet Mundine would like it to be! Wink
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(02-08-2017, 03:43 AM)LP link Wrote:It seems the issue isn't so black and white, ............

although I bet Mundine would like it to be! Wink
I just find the bloke hard to stomach, I cringe every single time he opens his mouth. I mean his old man went to Green's corner after the fight and said "your boy won the fight". Thank fork he is retired and I never have to hear him again. Talk about athletes who dont know how to conduct themselves, this guy is the most ungracious sports person I have ever heard. Enjoy retirement Flog!
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(02-08-2017, 08:25 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I just find the bloke hard to stomach, I cringe every single time he opens his mouth. I mean his old man went to Green's corner after the fight and said "your boy won the fight". Thank fork he is retired and I never have to hear him again. Talk about athletes who dont know how to conduct themselves, this guy is the most ungracious sports person I have ever heard. Enjoy retirement Flog!

I was a big boxing fan back in the day - I took Mrs DJC to TV Ringside for our first date - and I had the privilege of meeting Tony Mundine many years ago.  He was a very gentle, humble man and it makes me wonder about the nature vs nurture debate; neither seems to apply in Anthony's case.

I met Linda Stoner the same night that I met Tony  Smile
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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(02-08-2017, 09:21 AM)DJC link Wrote:I met Linda Stoner the same night that I met Tony  Smile

Was a bizarre situation back then, Stoner eventually come out as an anti-boxing advocate. Use to see the likes of Judy Green, Judy James and Delvene Delaney at those events as well. Boxing was a place to be seen back then.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(02-09-2017, 10:00 AM)LP link Wrote:Was a bizarre situation back then, Stoner eventually come out as an anti-boxing advocate. Use to see the likes of Judy Green, Judy James and Delvene Delaney at those events as well. Boxing was a place to be seen back then.

Progress.
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#28
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-fitz-fil...ua2ci.html
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#29
I understand that there is a real push to make sports safe etc, however these guys are fighters and sure let's make thumping each other as safe as possible but on some level this is unavoidable.

The reaction to head trauma in sports lives in the realm of hysteria IMHO.

Everyone is well aware of the risks involved else they'd be knitting instead.
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#30
Quote:I am staring at images of human brains. Damaged human brains. One, in particular, fascinates me. It looks similar to a textbook MRI scan of a concussed brain, yet the injuries it shows were not caused by the sort of collision – eight-ounce glove on exposed jaw, rutting head on rutting head – that leaves a crowd gasping and a player unsure whether their next step will be a lurch forwards or a stumble sideways. No. This brain was damaged by simply heading a football. A lightweight, modern football.
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A major problem is that with sub-concussive injuries people don’t realise they have damaged their brains. And so they keep going. “You can bruise any other part of your body and it feels sore,” says Nauman. “But when the same thing happens to your brain it doesn’t have the pain receptors to tell you to ease off for a few days. That is enough to really cause problems.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blo...ain-damage

One of the interesting findings in this study is that the impact of the lightweight soccer balls was "... much higher than expected. Some registered at between 50g and 100g – similar to American Football players crashing into each other or punches thrown by boxers."

“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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