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They certainly won't win with her either.
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Agree.  Like him or not, Trump is pretty shrewd - his jumping all over the place is hard to combat and what he says, whether it is true or not, seems to resonate with the right people to back him and, in the right places vote for him.
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It's kind of ironic that if the Dem's had been successful in having Trump removed in that impeachment process a few months back there's a fair possibility they would have wrecked their chances of winning the presidency.
Pence wouldn't have been the candidate..
Who would have been the Republican candidate and how would they have shaped up differently against Biden?
Would Biden still have been the  Democratic candidate in that scenario?
How would that impeachment vote have gone today?


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(06-29-2020, 08:10 AM)Lods link Wrote:It's kind of ironic that if the Dem's had been successful in having Trump removed in that impeachment process a few months back there's a fair possibility they would have wrecked their chances of winning the presidency.
Pence wouldn't have been the candidate..
Who would have been the Republican candidate and how would they have shaped up differently against Biden?
Would Biden still have been the  Democratic candidate in that scenario?
How would that impeachment vote have gone today?

Yet they always knew they had zero chance of getting the 'charge' through the GOP controlled Senate....

Just Pelosi showing she's as gone as Sleep Joe.
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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(06-29-2020, 08:17 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:Yet they always knew they had zero chance of getting the 'charge' through the GOP controlled Senate....

Just Pelosi showing she's as gone as Sleep Joe.
 I doubt they did it thinking they would win, I suspect it was a message not a judgement.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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clearly but if the message does nothing but alienate the populace/....

Well, Plan B I guess was a pandemic!?
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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Trump will win.

Why?  Follow the Dow Jones.

They've already gone down the road of saying he's not being serious about the pandemic.

The only way they do this is by getting serious and shutting down states.

That's disaster for the wealthy unless they bail early.  Some have, but most won't.  Trumps doing exactly what the wealthy want.  Those people mean more to America than any voter does.  He's in for another term IMHO.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(06-29-2020, 12:49 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Trump will win.

Why?  Follow the Dow Jones.

They've already gone down the road of saying he's not being serious about the pandemic.

The only way they do this is by getting serious and shutting down states.

That's disaster for the wealthy unless they bail early.  Some have, but most won't.  Trumps doing exactly what the wealthy want.  Those people mean more to America than any voter does.  He's in for another term IMHO.

Tend to agree, the affected masses wont rock up to vote anyway and the sharemarket in the USA will collapse if anyone else but Trump gets in and I cant see Corporate America and the wealthy allowing that to happen.
Its all wrong but Trump and crew dont care about lives and given voting isnt compulsory its going to take a very organised opponent to get the numbers out to vote and Biden wouldnt know what planet he is on much less being able to make sure the anti trumpers all cast a vote.
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Russiagate has turned into a disaster for the Dems with potentially some bigtime skeletons to emerge from the closet there. I tend to think Trump will get back and if he does revenge will be the order of the day.
Reality always wins in the end.
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(06-29-2020, 09:50 PM)cookie2 date Wrote:Russiagate has turned into a disaster for the Dems with potentially some bigtime skeletons to emerge from the closet there. I tend to think Trump will get back and if he does revenge will be the order of the day.
That's not how he roles.

Even if he gets in he knows it's his final term. The guys looks after himself first and foremost, it's his one consistent and reliable trait, so he'll be brown-nosing big time with his potential replacements from either side. Just wait and see the types of back flip that this term potentially produces.

Trump supporters that think he's going out guns blazing are in for a hell of a shock!

You wouldn't put it past him to try and have the rules changed so he can stay, but he won't try that on unless he thinks it is a high chance of success, because it makes him look like another Putin or Li and there will be ramifications he cannot defend against if he's on the outside!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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