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[quote author=LP link=msg=303252 date=1591320669]
Vladimir Trump.

We always knew it was that way, it's no longer hidden.

First comes a civil war, then the Autocracy.

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Hitler had the German hearts and minds, the majority believed in him......dont think Trump on his best day could have claim to have similar mass appeal...Interesting that Adolf was planning on dropping a nuclear bomb on New York...that might have changed politics a bit in the USA.
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(06-08-2020, 04:21 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Obama was a great leader and it made no difference. Black Lives Matter was actually formed during his reign....................

An average president who effected no real meaningful change, and could only be considered in the positive when judged against the dismally low standards of his immediate predecessors and his immediate successor.

https://truthout.org/articles/a-mixed-st...-s-legacy/
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(06-08-2020, 08:21 AM)PaulP link Wrote:An average president who effected no real meaningful change, and could only be considered in the positive when judged against the dismally low standards of his immediate predecessors and his immediate successor.

https://truthout.org/articles/a-mixed-st...-s-legacy/

Given the seemingly constant freefall the once great nation that is USA has been in pre and post Obama, the fact that he was able to stop that from continuing could be considered a minor miracle!
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(06-09-2020, 08:12 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Given the seemingly constant freefall the once great nation that is USA has been in pre and post Obama, the fact that he was able to stop that from continuing could be considered a minor miracle!

The same problems that have plagued the country for decades continued under Obama, following essentially the same policies. Yes, he was better than the worst president in US history (Trump), and better than the second worst (GW Bush), but these standards are so low as to be rendered almost meaningless.

Nice rhetoric, nice words, but not nearly enough action to address significant problems. Cornel West has called Obama a black mascot for Wall Street, and I can see where he's coming from.

His ascension to the presidency highlights a big problem for black Americans, which is that individual upward mobility has supplanted communal benefit and improvement in the lives, standards etc. of coloured people. You can have people like Obama living wealthy successful lives, but for most blacks, improvement just isn't there.
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Thanks to the 22nd amendment, he's not there.
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The Obama's are worth about 70 mill and are 30 times more wealthy than when he became president, his troubles started with soft middle east policies(troop withdrawls against advice), granting a under sanctions Iran access to US banks to convert currency into Euros and trying to tax the wealthy to improve health care in the USA. All suicidal moves politically, he had some decent well meaning ideas but no political nous unlike Trump who has a lot of dopey ideas but more rat like cunning which is what you need to make things happen.
In the end he just gave up and looked after himself, think he just got sick of being the novelty black president with a target on his back. Trump has the knack of pulling out strong arm foreign policy at the right time usually when he has fecked up something else and is a master of deflection...Obama just didnt have that rat cunning or survival mentality.
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FMD, Donald Trump,

"Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur," Trump wrote. "75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?"

what a man!

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God Bless America!

PS; Apparently mobile phones are now communications blocking scanners?
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(06-08-2020, 08:21 AM)PaulP link Wrote:An average president who effected no real meaningful change, and could only be considered in the positive when judged against the dismally low standards of his immediate predecessors and his immediate successor.

https://truthout.org/articles/a-mixed-st...-s-legacy/

People have short memories Paul. Obama was a shocker.

Some highlights of his tenure:

1. deported 2m+ immigrants.
2. Benghazi (the Killary killings) and then destroyed Libya (without approval from Congress)
3. New Iraq war.
4. 10 times more drone strikes than Bush before him.
5. Signed the Monsanto Protection Act into law.
6. Signed the NDAA into law.
7. Signed more executive orders than any other President in history.
8. Sanctioned over USD100 billion of arms sales to the Saudis (who supply ISIS).
9. Continued the rendition program.
10. Stated blithely that he was "really good at killing people".
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini...protesters

"Though better data collection is necessary, multiple studies suggest that race is not a factor in deadly force decisions by police officers. What’s more, only 8 out of 1,000 fatal police shooting incidents in 2019 involved individuals reported as “unarmed” black people. The term “unarmed” does not imply that there was insufficient legal basis for police to use deadly force, only that media reports indicated the person was unarmed."
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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(06-10-2020, 04:19 AM)LP link Wrote:FMD, Donald Trump,

"Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur," Trump wrote. "75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?"

what a man!

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God Bless America!

PS; Apparently mobile phones are now communications blocking scanners?

Cops did nothing wrong there, if they can't give someone who is in their face a little push then they may as well abolish the police force.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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