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(09-24-2024, 01:23 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:The umpires gave him BOG in 12 games.
Here at CSC we voted him our best player in 11 games. That simply just doesn't happen by accident or mistake. What a marvel.
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Many of our losses after the bye were close, tightly fought affairs, so not surprising that Cripps would poll in those IMO.
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(09-24-2024, 01:57 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Many of our losses after the bye were close, tightly fought affairs, so not surprising that Cripps would poll in those IMO. Lets not let facts get in the way of good stories by the naysayers.
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09-24-2024, 02:09 AM
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/ma...r-AA1r590f
There are a few things wrong with a voting sysytem that basically means that if you're not a mid-fielder or a flanker it's difficult to see you winning.
But while the system is what it is, one of the things we don't need to see is judgements being made on statistics.
An umpire having a front row seat to the impact a player has at the contest doesn't need a set of statistics changing his point of view.
If a player makes more of an impression with 19 disposals than someone else does with 30... so be it.
This is the major line from the article....
"While Cripps thoroughly deserved the medal"
Full stop...
Cripps thoroughly deserved the medal.
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(09-23-2024, 09:04 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Didn't help that Nick was stealing Josh's votes.
Twice at the very least. Nick got votes v Melbourne, King's Birthday, after getting subbed off with 15 possessions, while Josh got none for getting 34. Similar last round too when Josh got 40 touches. Nick played well but Josh should have got 3 votes, not 1. Nick got the 3.
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Cripps polled 45 votes with 2 or 3 blokes hanging off him every week. My personal hope is that coaches will now conclude that he, like Dustin Martin, is basically untaggable, and will leave him be, and try to find other ways of beating us. I can't possibly imagine they think that playing half the team on him will be a recipe for success.
Wishful thinking no doubt.
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The best two players came first and second. Neither had team mates who took votes off them like Heeney and Bontempelli. Umpires get voting wrong all the time like coaches, players, spectators and so called experts. The system is like it is and has been like it is for a hundred years. People need to get over it.
Well done Crippa, I thought it was his best season and I know I have voted for him more this season than in the past.
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Before the count, there were various "Predictors" for Cripps, Daicos, Bont, Serong, Neale, Heeney, a two way or three way tie, one even an outsider (Merrett).
Today after the count they are either claiming they predicted Cripps would win, among one of the various other possibilities listed, or they are complaining about how Brownlow got it wrong again.
There's your problem, right there! : 
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https://au.yahoo.com/sports/ben-cousins-...24386.html
Not sure what Ben Cousins has to do with P. Cripps winning the brownlow this season but there seem a lot of unhappy folk other than Carlton supporters. I thought Cripps had a better season than when he won his first brownlow and took his game to a new level yet the voting system is being challenged again and the players association voting deemed a better indicator.
The skipper got 45 votes because he earned them imho and yep a few players missed on votes like Bont, like usually what happens in some games but it was a convincing victory by our man and his win has been devalued by all this whinging about umpires not being the best judges and 45 votes being an unreasonable number.
If this was Nick Daicos with the same number of votes would we have had the same carry on?
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09-24-2024, 04:29 AM
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(09-24-2024, 03:53 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:If this was Nick Daicos with the same number of votes would we have had the same carry on? A lot of them are spurned Daicos lovers, they announced his success before it happened, went early, pulled the trigger, and now they have the bitterness of unrequited love!
The tell in the Yahoo clown article is the following wording, "... according to the Player Ratings system", like there is just one, the one, when in fact there are many, and they all use a different formula. The weights applied to stats are arbitrary.
What I think the article really means to say is, " .................... according to the Player ratings system that I prefer" but he must have left the last bit off!
btw., When BT stalked the umpires post game we found out they lock themselves in a room, no phones, no computers, and vote straight after the game, no stats, no external influences, just what they witnessed and remember happening on the field. They even take off the broadcaster's Mics so nobody can eavesdrop.
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