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AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
(09-05-2024, 11:56 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:check the stats.  Forget the rucks for moment, but tell me, why were our smalls no where near the footy? 

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/20...30923.html

Must be because they were tired because of the 0 extra talls we carried. 

Let's face it we lost at the selection table dropping owies.

The reality is cripps didn't play well and that was that.

Not sure what you are attempting to show me.
We had 12 players with 12 touches or less.

We were smashed all over the ground.
They ran around us like we were witches hats.
We burst out of the gates and barely got a score afterwards

We couldn't catch anything that night.
Not sure what fans what. We are in a do or die interstate final against last years runners up. Do you really think the likes of lord carroll moir binns can get the job done?
Yes we are risking heaps by ‘maybe’ bringing in underdone players or players with long histories of soft tissue injuries but the reality is we fans dont ever really know the condition of injured players and how ready they actuallt are and our only chance of causing an upset is if our best players perform close to their best not running with 4 kids with less then 10 games.

Its our only chance and i understand the need to take risks to have a tiny chance to cause an upset.
(09-05-2024, 12:04 PM)shawny link Wrote:Not sure what fans what. We are in a do or die interstate final against last years runners up. Do you really think the likes of lord carroll moir binns can get the job done?
Yes we are risking heaps by ‘maybe’ bringing in underdone players or players with long histories of soft tissue injuries but the reality is we fans dont ever really know the condition of injured players and how ready they actuallt are and our only chance of causing an upset is if our best players perform close to their best not running with 4 kids with less then 10 games.

Its our only chance and i understand the need to take risks to have a tiny chance to cause an upset.

Cincotta or all of Durdin/Motlop/Fantasia ?
Cincotta or Cerra?

Its not about kids.
(09-05-2024, 12:06 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Cincotta or all of Durdin/Motlop/Fantasia ?
Cincotta or Cerra?

Its not about kids.

What about the other 19-20 selections or just focus on 1-2 you dont agree with.
Surely they know a hell of a lot more then us.
I wonder why footy clubs insist on naming teams on the Thursday evening that are nothing like the line ups that run out on game day.  Footy fans seem to be the only ones taken in.

Unless the club is prepared to wear a fine, the only thing we can be sure of is that 23 of the 26 players named will run out on Saturday.

Hopefully, that 23 will include De Koning and we’ll be able to match up on and apply genuine pressure to Brisbane’s talls.

If we get the combination right, and Jack Russell has got the rehab right, I reckon we can do the same kind of number on Brisbane as Geelong did on Port.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
(09-05-2024, 12:28 PM)shawny link Wrote:What about the other 19-20 selections or just focus on 1-2 you dont agree with.
Surely they know a hell of a lot more then us.

What kind of comment is that?
You want me to go through every player picked and say I agree?
I've already commented on the rest....and focused on where i think the issues are.

My question to you was asking are you happy with the team?

Why complain about people complaining about kids?

(09-05-2024, 12:28 PM)shawny link Wrote:What about the other 19-20 selections or just focus on 1-2 you dont agree with.
Surely they know a hell of a lot more then us.
Bite your tongue Shawny. At last count there were 893 coaches on here who know more.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
(09-05-2024, 12:04 PM)shawny link Wrote:Not sure what fans what. We are in a do or die interstate final against last years runners up. Do you really think the likes of lord carroll moir binns can get the job done?
Yes we are risking heaps by ‘maybe’ bringing in underdone players or players with long histories of soft tissue injuries but the reality is we fans dont ever really know the condition of injured players and how ready they actuallt are and our only chance of causing an upset is if our best players perform close to their best not running with 4 kids with less then 10 games.

Its our only chance and i understand the need to take risks to have a tiny chance to cause an upset.

Lord, Binns, Moir can because they are fit and in form. Not as if we are playing 23 of those types. They would blend in alot better with the others we have in than non match fit players. No risks needed. Just a fit football team. Our slump started playing half fit, out of form bigger names as you well know. Right now, it is panic button selection.

I prefer Cincotta, Lord, Binns and Moir to Durdin, Motlop and Fantasia and a half fit Cerra.
(09-05-2024, 12:28 PM)shawny link Wrote:What about the other 19-20 selections or just focus on 1-2 you dont agree with.
Surely they know a hell of a lot more then us.

You'd like to think they know more but we wonder. We also watch footy so we have a good idea what is happening with the ultimate proof............on field performance. Voss/MC took the weak way out tonight.
(09-05-2024, 12:00 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Not sure what you are attempting to show me.
We had 12 players with 12 touches or less.

We were smashed all over the ground.
They ran around us like we were witches hats.
We burst out of the gates and barely got a score afterwards

We couldn't catch anything that night.
reckon the week off played a bigger factor, but the point is that our talls vs theirs weren't the issue. 

You know what the issue is?  A small forward like who contributes 6 possession from 70% game time not hitting the scoreboard laying 0 tackles.  In itself not an issue, but when your other smalls have similar numbers, that's the problem.

That's why the rest struggle.  Not because of the talls who have typical tall stats.  You play a man down (sometimes 2) carrying a player like that.  Last week against the saints it happened with durdin, motlop, Fantasia and owies and we only lost by a couple of points because combined they gave us a 2 player game. 

That's the problem.  Not the talls.  We carry no more than others, and don't tell me the other teams have blistering run in their mids.  They all have a few one paced players who aren't quick but the only ones who have non contributors end up putting in a performance like port did tonight.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson


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