AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

[kruddler]

An "ITK" elsewhere has claimed that the sub is 'surprising'!?! Could it be Kemp? Wouldn't that freak out some people here????

As soon as i saw the bench i said it should be Fantasia, but it would probably be kemp.
Poor bloke must have ran over Vossy's cat/dog. Always the first one to get it in the neck.

[crashlander]

Our line-up: sometimes our match committee makes me wonder, but ...

B:  [33] Lewis Young  [23] Jacob Weitering  [42] Adam Saad
HB:  [15] Sam Docherty  [11] Mitch McGovern  [24] Nic Newman
C:  [4] Oliver Hollands  [9] Patrick Cripps  [13] Blake Acres
HF:  [20] Elijah Hollands  [10] Harry McKay  [6] Zac Williams
F:  [19] Corey Durdin  [12] Tom De Koning  [3] Jesse Motlop
R:  [27] Marc Pittonet  [18] Sam Walsh  [29] George Hewett
Int:  [2] Lachlan Cowan  [5] Adam Cerra  [14] Orazio Fantasia  [17] Brodie Kemp  [7] Matthew Kennedy

Em:  [16] Jack Carroll  [39] Alex Cincotta  [43] Ashton Moir

[1] I like bringing in Doc; he is a big game player. He may not be 'match fit', but he is probably as fit as anyone this time of year, maybe more so.
[2] I'm struggling to understand how a half-fit Corey Durdin stays in when Cincotta misses. I'd have liked to have Moir as the Sub. How Motlop keeps his space I'm also struggling with. He hasn't done anything of significance this year.
I quite like Motlop, but he is about as far off the boil as a player can get. I liked Durdin's effort in the last couple of weeks, but he can't put his hand over his head.
[3] Cerra mystifies me somewhat. When he is fit and firing, he is a weapon, but he hasn't been 'fit and firing' this year yet. And his hamstrings are suspect.
[4] I don't mind the 2 rucks with Charlie out; we need another marking target and To0md can be one. Running 2 rucks against McInerney and Daniher is not a bad idea either.
[5] Dunkley has played some big games against Cripps. I'd like to see Crippa turn the tables on him this time.

[kruddler]

I think TDKs best role is ruck and has never convinced me he is a KP forward.
I get we have nothing else but if he does play it would be mainly ruck for me and I'd have Kennedy at FF.

If its worth saying, its worth saying twice? lol.

I agree.

But as we both know, the cupboard is very bare in key talls, so if he is deemed fit, he plays.
If Charlie is deemed not fit, Pittonet plays and TDK gets moved forward.
Kemp provides backup in case of injury.

[Thryleon]

Kemp should start.  All our big men should.

If we are going to win this, it's all going to be about the form of weitering, McKay, cripps, kennedy hewitt and Walsh and the rest just need to lift to the occasion.

Problem I have is cerra and durdin.  To a lesser extent motlop but he's been a flash in the pan or performer and not really even that this season.

Cerra's best is good enough to be a point of difference but we haven't seen it since last year before finals.

[kruddler]

Kemp should start.  All our big men should.

If we are going to win this, it's all going to be about the form of weitering, McKay, cripps, kennedy hewitt and Walsh and the rest just need to lift to the occasion.

Problem I have is cerra and durdin.  To a lesser extent motlop but he's been a flash in the pan or performer and not really even that this season.

Cerra's best is good enough to be a point of difference but we haven't seen it since last year before finals.

In theory, Kemp is a good sub.

However, when you have the small forwards we have who will be non-contributors, you'd be better off starting kemp.....or cincotta...or anyone.

Overall i think our team balance is about right, i just dislike our forwardline/bench.

Brisbane beat us last year because of their smalls, not their talls. We helped lose the game by going in too tall last time.
We need to pressure their smalls/runners We need to hold them accountable. Someone like Cincotta does exactly that.

[Sexybronco]

In theory, Kemp is a good sub.

However, when you have the small forwards we have who will be non-contributors, you'd be better off starting kemp.....or cincotta...or anyone.

Overall i think our team balance is about right, i just dislike our forwardline/bench.

Brisbane beat us last year because of their smalls, not their talls. We helped lose the game by going in too tall last time.
We need to pressure their smalls/runners We need to hold them accountable. Someone like Cincotta does exactly that.

Cincotta on the bench is our way of saying to Brisbane ‘there will be a late change, you just have to work out who it will be’, no way he doesn’t play

[Thryleon]

In theory, Kemp is a good sub.

However, when you have the small forwards we have who will be non-contributors, you'd be better off starting kemp.....or cincotta...or anyone.

Overall i think our team balance is about right, i just dislike our forwardline/bench.

Brisbane beat us last year because of their smalls, not their talls. We helped lose the game by going in too tall last time.
We need to pressure their smalls/runners We need to hold them accountable. Someone like Cincotta does exactly that.

we did not go in too tall last time. 

Put our talls against them it was even.  Most of our smalls were garbage last year.

[kruddler]

we did not go in too tall last time. 

Put our talls against them it was even.  Most of our smalls were garbage last year.

Too tall and/or too slow and/or not enough pressure on the ball

Pittonet+TDK
Weitering, McGovern, marchbank (instead of kemp!)
McKay, Charlie

Cripps
Cerra
Hewett
Kennedy as the sub

Thats 11 players who wouldn't be catching 90% of players in the AFL who played in the prelim.

This year is Young for Marchbank (which is a better matchup - Marchy was undersized without a matchup)
TDK plays forward instead of Charlie. So we are 1 tall less, but better matchups height wise.
Also Kennedy as a sub/small last year, is more of a tall this year, allowing us to play a true small in his place.

I still think we are too slow and would ideally swap out Cerra who is slow, but moreso is unfit and will become slower for Cincotta.

[Professer E]

Yep too slow.  Not enough blokes that tackle with intent.  Surely Cinch and Lord play, at least they tackle and run.

[Thryleon]

Too tall and/or too slow and/or not enough pressure on the ball

Pittonet+TDK
Weitering, McGovern, marchbank (instead of kemp!)
McKay, Charlie

Cripps
Cerra
Hewett
Kennedy as the sub

Thats 11 players who wouldn't be catching 90% of players in the AFL who played in the prelim.

This year is Young for Marchbank (which is a better matchup - Marchy was undersized without a matchup)
TDK plays forward instead of Charlie. So we are 1 tall less, but better matchups height wise.
Also Kennedy as a sub/small last year, is more of a tall this year, allowing us to play a true small in his place.

I still think we are too slow and would ideally swap out Cerra who is slow, but moreso is unfit and will become slower for Cincotta.

check the stats.  Forget the rucks for moment, but tell me, why were our smalls no where near the footy? 

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/20...30923.html

Must be because they were tired because of the 0 extra talls we carried. 

Let's face it we lost at the selection table dropping owies.

The reality is cripps didn't play well and that was that.