AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

[LP]

Won't be seeing any this year unless its the GF though.

I've only been to Docklands for Carlton a couple of times other than to watch my sons play, otherwise it's The G for me and The G alone, of course I use to go to PP religiously.

[Gointocarlton]

Good luck trying to pick a side next week given the following are a chance:
Curnow McKay De Koning McGovern Williams Cerra and potentially Docherty.

Owies out is a certainty.

For me I'd go with:

FB Cowan Weitering Saad
HB Newman Young/McGovern Kemp
C Hollands Cripps Acres
HF Kennedy McKay Hollands
FF Williams Curnow Fantasia
R Pittonet/De Koning Hewett Walsh
Int Cerra Cincotta Lord Moir
Sub Docherty
Cant decide on Young or McGovern, I'd lead towards Young as we need two big backs to look after Daniher and Hipwood. McGovern doesn't cut the mustards on either of those.
Cant decide on Pittonet or De Koning. I doubt TDK will get up this week given he had a punctured lung and fracture foot so I reckon Pitto gets the nod.
Against everything I have ever said, I will back in Williams to a. get up and b. give something as a small fwd.
Is it Durdin or Fantasia for the other pocket?

Of the newbies, Lord and Moir must remain. Lord will get better with every game and has some toughness about him, you need tough nuts in finals. Moir has class, strong hands and X factor.

I'm dropping Motlop Carroll (unlucky) Binns and Durdin (also unlucky) and Owies is suspended.

I can bring myself to trust Martin

Having said all that, there might only be 3 changes from last week with Curnow McKay and McGovern coming in for Owies ?? and ??

[Gointocarlton]

So more like the following (experienced)
FB Cowan Weitering Saad
HB Newman McGovern Kemp
C Hollands Cripps Acres
HF Kennedy McKay Hollands
FF Williams Curnow Motlop
R Pittonet Hewett Walsh
Int Cerra Cincotta Carroll Fantasia
Sub Martin
In Curnow McKay McGovern Cerra Williams Martin
Out Owies Young Moir Lord Durdin Binns

[Blue Moon]

Kemp has demonstrated he is a forward. Why would you move him into defence? Martin is not physically reliable, why would you play him? Since Young has played we have kept WCE to four goals and St.Kilda to eleven, we have struggled against tall forwards all year, why would you not play him. McGovern is always a worry physically and Young can take the centre square rucking duties when required.
I think Moir, Lord, Binns and Owies won't play, hopefully McKay,  McGovern, Curnow and Williams will play. Cerra, Docherty, Martin and TDK would have to demonstrate they can get through a game. Boyd won't be ready for a couple of weeks I believe.

[ElwoodBlues1]

First glance it's a giant 'No!'
You would be reluctant to play Martin...for the obvious reasons.
But have Zac and Martin ever played forward at the same time?
It would be a bit of a headache for a defence with McKay and Curnow there as well.

It really is an all or nothing game for us...so maybe you roll the dice and hope both Williams and Martin can finish a game.

Probably be more of a headache for the Drs and Physio.....

[Gointocarlton]

Kemp has demonstrated he is a forward. Why would you move him into defence? Martin is not physically reliable, why would you play him? Since Young has played we have kept WCE to four goals and St.Kilda to eleven, we have struggled against tall forwards all year, why would you not play him. McGovern is always a worry physically and Young can take the centre square rucking duties when required.
I think Moir, Lord, Binns and Owies won't play, hopefully McKay,  McGovern, Curnow and Williams will play. Cerra, Docherty, Martin and TDK would have to demonstrate they can get through a game. Boyd won't be ready for a couple of weeks I believe.

Of the group Cerra Docherty Martin and TDK, I will bet both the family jewels Doc would come in, be ready and play well. Nothing surer in my mind. The rest, I would have no confidence in Martin, TDK would be 50/50 propositions to get through a game, do you take that risk in a cut throat final? I'd say no.

[DJC]

Kemp has demonstrated he is a forward. Why would you move him into defence? Martin is not physically reliable, why would you play him? Since Young has played we have kept WCE to four goals and St.Kilda to eleven, we have struggled against tall forwards all year, why would you not play him. McGovern is always a worry physically and Young can take the centre square rucking duties when required.
I think Moir, Lord, Binns and Owies won't play, hopefully McKay,  McGovern, Curnow and Williams will play. Cerra, Docherty, Martin and TDK would have to demonstrate they can get through a game. Boyd won't be ready for a couple of weeks I believe.

Kemp has a long way to go before he comes close to demonstrating that he's a forward.  Perhaps he will with a full pre-season working on his forward craft and goal kicking.  However, I'd leave him as third tall forward if we get Harry and Charlie back, provided he can keep out of their way.

I'd also leave Young in the backline, particularly with Daniher, Hipwood and the Big O.  Our defence has looked better balanced with Young in the mix and he seems to have freed Weitering up to get more involved in intercepting and transition.

[laj]

Kemp has demonstrated he is a forward. Why would you move him into defence? Martin is not physically reliable, why would you play him? Since Young has played we have kept WCE to four goals and St.Kilda to eleven, we have struggled against tall forwards all year, why would you not play him. McGovern is always a worry physically and Young can take the centre square rucking duties when required.
I think Moir, Lord, Binns and Owies won't play, hopefully McKay,  McGovern, Curnow and Williams will play. Cerra, Docherty, Martin and TDK would have to demonstrate they can get through a game. Boyd won't be ready for a couple of weeks I believe.

To me Lord, Binns and Moir (as sub only) have earned their right to play. They are fit, unlike others we are likely to go and select. I only have 4 coming back, Harry, Charlie, Zac and Gov. I was blokes fit and in match condition, not misses a big chuck of the year with injury issues. West Coast won the 2018 GF with 6 of their best blokes out. What they did do was go in with a fit side that ran the game right out.

Not playing a bloke that has had 3 knee recos and not played since March, especially in a final, as good as Doc is. The fact he has done 3 makes me think he can be susceptible, especially with just 6 months off. Might be exciting that he might be ready but one needs to be practical. Be absolute hell to pay if he did it again. Too risky.

[ElwoodBlues1]

To me Lord, Binns and Moir (as sub only) have earned their right to play. They are fit, unlike others we are likely to go and select. I only have 4 coming back, Harry, Charlie, Zac and Gov. I was blokes fit and in match condition, not misses a big chuck of the year with injury issues. West Coast won the 2018 GF with 6 of their best blokes out. What they did do was go in with a fit side that ran the game right out.

Not playing a bloke that has had 3 knee recos and not played since March, especially in a final, as good as Doc is. The fact he has done 3 makes me think he can be susceptible, especially with just 6 months off. Might be exciting that he might be ready but one needs to be practical. Be absolute hell to pay if he did it again. Too risky.

Agree the kids deserve to play and we need fit and able players only vs Brisbane not ones who haven't played for a while or who are not reliable enough to last 4 quarters on a regular basis.

[pinot]

Doc is too inspirational and too good of a player in big moments not to play.
Probably the Scottish stubborness in him. But big moment players is what we need. Thats what will win games if its close.