AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

[sleeper]

They're both less than optimal at the moment.... Both need to step up somewhat to justify their selections. There is some new blood who have had a taste of the big show. Unless the passengers start delivering, they will be overtaken.

A lot of focus on the Saints game for Jesse. His Eagles game the week before was as just as bad.

Both of his games were pretty woeful really....he's in his third year. Should be doing better - consistently!
 
His best is good enough.

[pinot]

Jesse is no where near it but has the most upside and body built for AFL,

[Thryleon]

No he hasn't been better than i thought. He has been 'below average'. Which when you recruit a 28yo, is not good enough.
Thats why he has been used subbed off 4 times this year...and started sub once.
Apparantly he played 'great' this week though.
He had 10 touches.
He had 5 turnovers.
But lets celebrate how great he was by showing a 1minute highlights clip.....which shows the same highlights from 4 different angles to pad out that 1 minute.

Not buying it.

4 turnovers but let's not let the stats get in the way shall we.

[kruddler]

4 turnovers but let's not let the stats get in the way shall we.

5 according to AFL stats.

[Gointocarlton]

Jesse is no where near it

Agree

but has the most upside and body built for AFL,

Dont Agree

[Thryleon]

5 according to AFL stats.

according to the stats motlop had 4 touches and 3 score involvements with 2 turnovers.

So one of his turnovers was a score involvement?

6 metres gained and the heat map firmly in forward 50 with somehow 3 touches in 50 and 2 outside (must have been caught in possession with one).

Like I said, throw the stats out.

Orazio had 7 kicks and 3 handballs and went at 70% disposal efficiency yet registered 5 turnovers to go with 2 goal assists and 1 goal himself.  297 metres gained which was the same as Sam Walsh.  His heat map shows him working end to end too.


Time on ground for jesse 97 minutes.  Orazio 66 minutes.

Look you can quote the stats sheet all you like but some of the stats have hairs on them, and largely orazio was taking on more tricky and difficult disposals than short ones.

[kruddler]

Perhaps you can turn it over by giving away a free kick.

Perhaps fantasia kicked it 40±m to a contest and turned it over. That's an effective kick and a turnover in one.

[blueianh]

No Owies this week unless they appeal the tribunal.  As a lawyer I can't see how they grade the impact as medium when the player basically gets up and goes about his business, no concussion test and plays out the game.  Appeal on the grounds of manifest error in the grading and even unreasonable decision grounds would seem to me to have legs.  Whether they take it on is another matter.

[laj]

Motlop was.never going to play well this year given he lost too much of the season. He was good when it mattered last year, though. Especially late. As for Fantasia, he needed a year under his belt after so long out  He will be better next year for us. Both struggled this year for different reasons and will be much better in 2025.

I'd have neither in our first final but depends on who is available too.

[Gointocarlton]

Motlop was.never going to play well this year given he lost too much of the season. He was good when it mattered last year, though. Especially late. As for Fantasia, he needed a year under his belt after so long out  He will be better next year for us. Both struggled this year for different reasons and will be much better in 2025.

I'd have neither in our first final but depends on who is available too.

Owies suspension upheld, they have to play