AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

[dodge]

Took me a long time to work that out!

[LP]

Lemmey shadows Harry at training and he works against Weiters et al at training.  His running patterns are good and he is a good mark.  His kicking for goal is generally very good. 

He can play in defence and he’s a competent ruckman.

I’d say that he’s still a work in progress, but he’s a much better chance of having an impact as a key forward than Hollands, E, Kennedy, McGovern, Kemp or Young.

Yes he is a WIP, his biggest shortcoming at the moment is aerobic capacity, and when he fatigues his competitiveness drops away the same as anybody who is fatigued. But that's common for young KPPs, Harry was the same early, Lemmey is just a kid we need patience. Young would have him covered in this regard.

A key AFL KPF craft is repeat efforts, lead after lead after lead with often the last one being rewarded.

Running the KPFs around the ground is a tactic used by opponents to take repeat efforts out of a KPF's legs, we do it to our own when we have them up the field or in D50 filling B or C-Grade roles, they aren't midfielders. If we ask that of Lemmey he'll blow up before 1/4-time!

If running deep does no harm, why aren't McGovern, Kemp or Weiters in the F50 goal square attempting and taking the odd contested mark? It's because it's impossible to be at both ends in a timely manner, and still be fresh enough to compete strongly.

[deepbluesee]

It the highest point of his jump, not the highest point of the ball trajectory.

And I will add that way too many Mark Of The Year contenders have gone to someone who took a chest mark speccy that could have been marked without the big leap and just by putting the arms up (easier said than done of course). I would like an analysis/estimation done of the highest marks taken - that is the ball caught at the highest point. Think Jezza on a ruckman's shoulders with his arms up.

[LP]

And I will add that way too many Mark Of The Year contenders have gone to someone who took a chest mark speccy that could have been marked without the big leap and just by putting the arms up (easier said than done of course). I would like an analysis/estimation done of the highest marks taken - that is the ball caught at the highest point. Think Jezza on a ruckman's shoulders with his arms up.

There was a ground level photo of a Dawk who got launched taking a mark with arms straight up, it's luck in that the timing has to be perfect to steal vertical momentum off opponents. But the player was standing on the shoulders of another player who was also about half a body length above the flat footed ruck. That puts the marking hands 3m to 4m above the ruckmen head so 5m or 6m off the ground.

[pew2]

60 mm of rain according to harford ,that might help us

[Gointocarlton]

My phone as already started smoking with abusive texts.

The vultures are circling.

L I F T  B A B Y  B A G G E R S ! ! ! !

Text back with GAGF

[DJC]

I think we can win, WC are not that good and Im hoping we show some fight and pride as GTC suggested and Im sure Cripps, Walsh, Weitering and other senior players can lead the kids to a win and redeem some respect after last weeks debacle.
The players owe Voss after last weeks feeble display and another loss wont be tolerated by long suffering fans Im sure.

I like your optimism and logic EB. 

A win over the Eagles with our injury-depleted team would be a pretty good indicator of development.

[Gointocarlton]

It the highest point of his jump, not the highest point of the ball trajectory.

So they should say "he marked the ball at his highest point".

[kruddler]

What does it actually mean?

I would have thought that every players' eyes are on roughly the same plane  :

If it means looking for a passing opportunity, then why not say that?  It's just another meaningless phrase that has crept into the commentators' repertoire.

Its take the shorter, smarter option when its available and not just bomb long and hope.

I've always known it since i was a kid as my dad used to say it, but never known its origin.

I just assumed it had as much to do with looking at the old magnetic whiteboard. Instead of kicking it over the HF line deep into the goals, lower your eyes and see whats in front of you.

In reality, i think its more simple than that. When a player is looking to kick deep, they seem to tilt their head back so their eyes are higher and it gives them more of an ability to see longer.
Lowering them looks at whats in front of you more, rather than over them.

[kruddler]

So they should say "he marked the ball at his highest point".

He marked it at its highest point.....that is physically possible.

That is, the highest point he can reach while jumping at it, rather than waiting for the ball to come down to you you went up and got it.