AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

[tex]

It’s just a case of second year blues for Ollie. A lot of players go through it.

I firmly believe he’ll be a 200 gamer for us too.
But, let’s set his development and growth up for that - he don’t need him peaking now.

Admit that playing seniors 100% of the time for a 19yo is just flogging him.

[Thryleon]

This is about the 4th time you've posted this BS.

Tell me how having Pittonet solved our key defender issues?

You can't.

Let it go.

It doesn't solve them, but our options change.

Weitering doesn't need Lewis Young in the side but he provides us more flexibility if weiters goes down, as the others couldn't stop Hogan yesterday and he's not the biggest forward going around he's just capable.

Last night Charlie gave us the least of our big men. Swinging him back during the run on may have turned his form around, and having pittonet allows us to swing tom forward and put Charlie behind the ball.

Stop those 2, 7 goal quarters at least.

Pittonet can park in defense too.  Hogan was the one that worried us, and I counted at least 2 goal line goals that he would have probably touched through but instead we were relying on lighter more easily shifted bodies.

All of it are fair points, but last night we could have played pittonet or Lewis Young instead of orazio, cotters, cincotta, and we likely lose little run out of it.  Maybe not both, but I think we need to consider that a bit. 

[Thryleon]

Second quarter we shifted the A team out of the middle.  I noticed one centre bounce where Fogarty, and the second stringers attended.  This helps gws catch fire and get a run on.  You'd think 8 goals up we can do this safely, but i noted during gws run on cripps was not attending centre bounces in the second quarter until it tightened up.  I think we were reacting to a few things going on at once.

[LP]

Tell me how having Pittonet solved our key defender issues?

If we'd had Pitto as a ruck or some KPP on the bench like Young it's fairly obvious you can reshuffle and share the load.

Whether that is one ruck floating into D50 zone, as Pitto is first class at doing, or having a spare tall to help out the limping Weiters and McGovern doesn't really matter, at least you have a chance of not giving Hogan a free run. Some options, and you can extract players who are hobbling around the field without surrendering momentum 100%.

Sure, we run over them in the last, proving we have plenty of run even when a a bunch of our tall types can barely cover a bath mat. But by that stage it's all too late, and I doubt anybody would assert it's viable for 4 qtrs.

It's not that hard to understand for the open minded.

I should ask, what is your plan in a GF if the very same happens again, ........ leave early?

[kruddler]

Second quarter we shifted the A team out of the middle.  I noticed one centre bounce where Fogarty, and the second stringers attended.  This helps gws catch fire and get a run on.  You'd think 8 goals up we can do this safely, but i noted during gws run on cripps was not attending centre bounces in the second quarter until it tightened up.  I think we were reacting to a few things going on at once.

Fogarty took plenty of centre bounces. Not sure thats a long term solution but its a thing.

Personally i'd prefer to see Fantasia out and swapped with someone like Cuningham or Motlop as they would be more effective up forward and through the middle.

Of course we still have Hewett hanging around as well.

[kruddler]

If we'd had Pitto as a ruck or some KPP on the bench like Young it's fairly obvious you can reshuffle and share the load.

Whether that is one ruck floating into D50 zone, as Pitto is first class at doing, or having a spare tall to help out the limping Weiters and McGovern doesn't really matter, at least you have a chance of not giving Hogan a free run. Some options, and you can extract players who are hobbling around the field without surrendering momentum 100%.

Sure, we run over them in the last, proving we have plenty of run even when a a bunch of our tall types can barely cover a bath mat. But by that stage it's all too late.

It's not that hard to understand for the open minded.

I should ask what is your plan for the GF if the very same happens again?

Like clockwork.

I knew you'd parrot the answer Thry came up with. Its taken you over 12 hours to answer that question and you manage to do it minutse after thry. lol.

I suppose you failed to notice that TDK was actually 'helping out' down back and was largely useless in the KPD role.
I almost made a comment mid-match saying TDK doesn't share his brothers defensive capabilities. He can't hold his ground as well in marking contests, nor read it as well in the air.

Oh we ran over them in the last.....sure.....we couldn't run over them enough though could we. We fell short in case you fail to remember.
Fixing that by removing run from the side to play a ruck out of position??
Glad you're not coach.

[northernblue]

Second quarter we shifted the A team out of the middle.  I noticed one centre bounce where Fogarty, and the second stringers attended.  This helps gws catch fire and get a run on.  You'd think 8 goals up we can do this safely, but i noted during gws run on cripps was not attending centre bounces in the second quarter until it tightened up.  I think we were reacting to a few things going on at once.

I actually thought Cripps was off the ground ?
I thought he was getting treatment for his shoulder ?

[LP]

I suppose you failed to notice that TDK was actually 'helping out' down back and was largely useless in the KPD role

So ignoring all your usual slights, you're going to assert sending TDK back out there on a jabbed up ankle he can barely stand on, barely mobile and unable to jump, is a valid test of his KPD capability.

That's as bad if not worse than claiming TDK against a "no ruck Handbagger squad" is proof solo rucks work, not that anybody would be brazen enough to make that claim!

Even with [member=105]Thryleon[/member] and myself posting the same basic response, the obvious and rather rudimentary response, you failed to answer either with anything more than smoke and mirrors, as usual!

[LP]

I should ask, what is your plan in a GF if the very same happens again, ........ leave early?

[member=20]kruddler[/member]

So no reply, busy thinking, not got a solution yet, planning a September Bali holiday....................... left already maybe?

[kruddler]

[member=20]kruddler[/member]

So no reply, busy thinking, not got a solution yet, ....................... left already maybe?

If the same happens again?
We get injuries to 5 players at once?

I can tell you i won't be pining for a 2nd ruck.

But lets say we do have a 2nd ruck on grand final day.
Lets say we get 5 injuries to smalls.
Does that help us?

Doesn't matter what 'what if' game you wanna play, There is no perfect answer.