AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

[northernblue]

Watching On the couch and 360 just now.
I cannot believe the garbage Robbo and Dunstall are coming out with to defend Dflogs tackle on Walsh.
Do they not realise that you don’t need to bring a player to the ground to effect a tackle anymore ?
Dflog, by kicking his legs out in front of himself abandoned his duty of care to Walsh because he removed his own ability to control the tackle !
He pinned Walshes arms, so he couldn’t legally dispose of the ball, all he needed to do was hang on and he would have been rewarded for his tackle.

[LP]

Funny, watching the game live I thought Hewett would be in for votes, he was hugely influential, yet after watching the reply I couldn't find a spot for him in the Top 5.

Cripps was enormous, the media gushed over TDK but once Blicavs went into the ruck TDK wasn't as dominant. Walsh was mighty all game, and Kennedy really got going after 1/4-time. Cincotta had his best game yet and deserved more votes than I could find for him.

[Baggers]

Watching On the couch and 360 just now.
I cannot believe the garbage Robbo and Dunstall are coming out with to defend Dflogs tackle on Walsh.
Do they not realise that you don’t need to bring a player to the ground to effect a tackle anymore ?
Dflog, by kicking his legs out in front of himself abandoned his duty of care to Walsh because he removed his own ability to control the tackle !
He pinned Walshes arms, so he couldn’t legally dispose of the ball, all he needed to do was hang on and he would have been rewarded for his tackle.

Yep. At best Dangerfield is strong in the tackle, at worst he's a mongrel. We Bluebaggers have long memories... his tunneling of Judd ended his career.

[LP]

Dflog, by kicking his legs out in front of himself abandoned his duty of care to Walsh because he removed his own ability to control the tackle !
He pinned Walshes arms, so he couldn’t legally dispose of the ball, all he needed to do was hang on and he would have been rewarded for his tackle.

In NRL it's banned, basically when you grab an opponent around the waist or hips and lift your legs off the ground, it's called a hip drop tackle and it's considered very dangerous!

[Thryleon]

I hope he gets off. They play thr chess this week.

[Lods]

I hope he gets off. They play thr chess this week.

That's a good way to look at it.
We've played them twice.
Him being out won't benefit us in the short term but he can do some 'damage' to other sides that may actually benefit us down the track.
He won't change his 'danger' ways so any penalty only benefits next weeks opponent.

[DJC]

Watching On the couch and 360 just now.
I cannot believe the garbage Robbo and Dunstall are coming out with to defend Dflogs tackle on Walsh.
Do they not realise that you don’t need to bring a player to the ground to effect a tackle anymore ?
Dflog, by kicking his legs out in front of himself abandoned his duty of care to Walsh because he removed his own ability to control the tackle !
He pinned Walshes arms, so he couldn’t legally dispose of the ball, all he needed to do was hang on and he would have been rewarded for his tackle.

There’s no need for the tackler to bring his opponent to the ground unless it’s to run time off the clock.  If Walsh had been allowed to keep his feet, he may have got a foot to the ball but the chances of that going to our advantage would be low.

I think that it is highly likely that Dangerfield’s intentions went beyond stopping Walsh and forcing a stoppage.

[RiverRat]

So.....anyone still think we need 2 rucks in the team? Anyone??

Didn't think so.

I don't think there is any question that we are a better balanced team with TDK rucking solo but I would hate to be relying on that team structure in a grand final or elimination final and have TDK injured without a suitable replacement. Having to move Harry into the ruck with Cripps and Kennedy as the backups might be catastrophic - especially against an opponent with strong ruck options.

[RiverRat]

As good as the ruck looked tonight against near zero opposition, for me the story of the night was the difference in pressure our SFs delivered, even Fantasia was passable, and it was clearly the major difference between Rnd 7 and tonight. They never got an easy exit from our F50, and they got the fumbles from being constantly under pressure.

The Owies tackle on Tuohy, just superb, Owies best game for the club by some margin!

I posed the question in the pre-game thread, could we play Cincotta as a tagger on Stewart, Tuohy or Guthrie? Yes we can!

Fancy thinking that if a team made Stewart accountable it could pay off! :o

Was tonight our 1st genuine 4-Qtr effort for the season, even for a couple of brief periods when we lost momentum, we never stopped applying the pressure?

Could not agree more.

One play that I thought deserved special mention was the intercept mark and goal by Cincotta.  Watching the play from behind the goal, it appears that Cincotta was difficult for the Geelong player to see as he was close behind Stewart (virtually hidden) before sprinting to intercept.

[RiverRat]

Charlie Curnow is "coasting" at the moment, he's content with having a little highlight reel moment where he bobs up and kicks a nice goal, the rest of the time he has his hands on his hips and is spectating., we all know he has no second efforets and refuses to chase. This is not good enough IMO, he has to learn that the players upfield are working their butts off to get the aggot up his end and he should have the decency to reward those efforts by applying himself harder and longer in a match, He'd kick 12 a week if he did. 

Contrast that to McKay who is running all over the ground, being part of the transition chain and is marking when & where needed, he is not as gifted as Curnow but gives his all 100% of the time because of it.

That has been a justifiable criticism of Charlie but not this week IMO.  He seemed to catch the high-pressure disease that claimed the rest of his teammates because his second efforts and chasing seemed noticeably better than usual.