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My best mate has been saying for about 10 years that he had a premonition back then that we won the flag in 2027.
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(06-07-2024, 10:43 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:My best mate has been saying for about 10 years that he had a premonition back then that we won the flag in 2027. I don't want to wait until then! Let's hope it's the fourth in a row....!
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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Draft pool is thin for Tassie kids this season, most of the talent will come from Victoria. Id give us a 3 year window to win a flag, we need to find another Cripps to keep our cycle going or become experts like Geelong at topping up and continually play finals.
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You would have to do a bit of a list comparison with other sides.
And not just with numbers of youngsters but quality of youngsters.
I guess my concern is that we're now in our prime with a talented list...but not much coming through in that Under 25 group group.
Where is our Reid, Horne Francis, Rowell etc...
and a side like Sydney has a group of very talented youngsters.
That suggests short term success.
We're fine and competitive for now, but it may not be a long stint at the crease.
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(06-08-2024, 12:52 AM)Lods link Wrote:You would have to do a bit of a list comparison with other sides.
And not just with numbers of youngsters but quality of youngsters.
I guess my concern is that we're now in our prime with a talented list...but not much coming through in that Under 25 group group.
Where is our Reid, Horne Francis, Rowell etc...
and a side like Sydney has a group of very talented youngsters.
That suggests short term success.
We're fine and competitive for now, but it may not be a long stint at the crease.
Tend to agree Lods. We really need to win it sooner rather than later.
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(06-08-2024, 12:52 AM)Lods link Wrote:You would have to do a bit of a list comparison with other sides.
And not just with numbers of youngsters but quality of youngsters.
I guess my concern is that we're now in our prime with a talented list...but not much coming through in that Under 25 group group.
Where is our Reid, Horne Francis, Rowell etc...
and a side like Sydney has a group of very talented youngsters.
That suggests short term success.
We're fine and competitive for now, but it may not be a long stint at the crease. this is why I don't understand people who are too concerned about us picking up options that are a bit unorthodox to what our team needs today. I think we are looking to the future already. The current mob are ready. One more player might make the difference but i don't see the point of picking up depth and ending up like the Tigers once the top liners go, or ending up like hawthorn. I'd rather be Geelong like.
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(06-08-2024, 04:52 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:this is why I don't understand people who are too concerned about us picking up options that are a bit unorthodox to what our team needs today. I think we are looking to the future already. The current mob are ready. One more player might make the difference but i don't see the point of picking up depth and ending up like the Tigers once the top liners go, or ending up like hawthorn. I'd rather be Geelong like.
Remember SOS’s comment about building a list for sustained success?
Regardless of whether you think that he was on target to achieve that, it is the ultimate list management objective, but not the only one. We need to be addressing deficiencies, complementing our strengths, building depth, succession planning and doing whatever we can to gain a competitive advantage. If that means taking an unorthodox approach, go for it!
I have been guilty of overestimating and underestimating our list over the last decade. With that qualification, I think we now have our strongest and most competitive list of this century. We can match any team in the competition, on our day and with a bit of luck. I am sure that, if we had made last season’s GF, number 17 would be in the cabinet at Princes Park.
Is that a premiership window opening or closing?
I think that it’s wide open and will stay open as long as the club continues to make good decisions, on and off the field!
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Geelong have been the model for sustained success, they have done it their way but there is that caveat that they have mass appeal to players because of the lifestyle opportunities and attracting players has been somewhat easier for them imho plus they virtually have their own U18 team in the Falcons and are able to attract those kids back to the club in some cases.
Agree with the premise of Lods that we have nothing much coming through in the U25 category with the exception of the Campo kids and they are going to have a fair bit of pressure on them to provide Daicos bros type results.
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(06-08-2024, 06:59 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Geelong have been the model for sustained success, they have done it their way but there is that caveat that they have mass appeal to players because of the lifestyle opportunities and attracting players has been somewhat easier for them imho plus they virtually have their own U18 team in the Falcons and are able to attract those kids back to the club in some cases.
Agree with the premise of Lods that we have nothing much coming through in the U25 category with the exception of the Campo kids and they are going to have a fair bit of pressure on them to provide Daicos bros type results.
We've got plenty of U25s that are either regulars in the firsts or who are showing potential; Cowan, Motlop, the two Hollands, Kemp, Walsh and Cottrell in the first category and Carroll, Binns, Monahan, Wilson and Moir in the second. Then there's another lot of youngsters who may or may not make it. Then there's another intake, including Scott's boys, to come in this year. Who knows what talent we may pick up?
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(06-08-2024, 07:42 AM)DJC link Wrote:We've got plenty of U25s that are either regulars in the firsts or who are showing potential; Cowan, Motlop, the two Hollands, Kemp, Walsh and Cottrell in the first category and Carroll, Binns, Monahan, Wilson and Moir in the second. Then there's another lot of youngsters who may or may not make it. Then there's another intake, including Scott's boys, to come in this year. Who knows what talent we may pick up? Depends how you rate those players...Walsh aside the rest are Indians imho and some would qualify as the cigar store type at this at this stage ie 2nd category got beat up by a bunch of no -names from the bottom of the VFL ladder.
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