AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

[LP]

Voss explained that Kennedy and Hewett being the sub is part of our strategy to manage player workload.

So the strategy is wrong, that's still an MC issue isn't it?

If it's not the MC, then who or what is it?

[Baggers]

As painful as it was, I just watched the Fluffy Ducks and Go Dees games again.
Similar errors/worrries in each game:
* Failed/limp tackles.
* After a fast start and opponents make changes to address our start, we do not make changes.
* Ordinary mid/forward connection.
* With the exception of Owies, so little from small forwards.
* Not getting enough from Charles' abilities beyond FF.
* Cruelled by injuries to key personnel.
...and so on.

To beat GCS:
(IMHO)
* Drop non-hackers/contributors - Durdin, Fantasia, O Hollands.
* Reward consistent good form from players in the Magoos, specifically - Binns, Cowan. Binns must shake his head and wonder what is up, especially when he sees how little the above three are providing. Commit and invest in the kid with consistent games.
* Tackling: Too many blokes failing to commit to the tackle of an opponent. Too timid. Between the lugholes. The failure of some to commit the body to the tackle is embarrassing. Poor intent.
* Safe. To beat GCS we need boldness... run, carry. Can't be terrified to make a mistake against this mob.
* Coaching:  FFS do something when the opposition is countering well our plan. Imagination. We've got blokes who have taken the field in the past two weeks who are quick, but this ability is not being utilized. Cincotta is one of the quickest blokes at the club, having him as a lockdown defender only is a waste. Fear/safe coaching. He and Boyd need more license to take the game on... Charles also, the bloke is uncanny, let him into the midfield at times. Develop more blokes who can run through the midfield - Cowan is another bloke who can be be given moments there. Okay, Williams didn't make it as a midfielder, but persisting with him as a high forward and going through the midfield at times is worth trying. Expand the dimensions of our midfield, keep the GCSs guessing.
* Run with: Chugga seems to be our only run with and does a good job unless his opponent is quick... then he's too slow. Cincotta? Cowan? Williams? Let's play more blokes to their strengths.
*Above the shoulders: Where's the boldness, run, hunting, hunger for the contest, intense tackling pressure, confidence, mongrel???
* Changes: IN: Binns, Cowan, Motlop, Saad. Out: Durdin, Fantasia, O Hollands, Carroll.
(If Weiters doesn't come up, Young in). Give Jack M more time to get his calves 100% right.

If you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've always got. Throw out the stubbornness and initiate flexibility. Learn that lesson from Fluffy Ducks/John Longmire.

[Adelaideblue]

Great assessment & suggestions Baggers.  Copy needs to go to CFC coaches and AFL media

cheers Ab

[RiverRat]

Williams didn't make it as a midfielder, but persisting with him as a high forward and going through the midfield at times is worth trying.

A couple of open-field tackles that Williams stuck in the forward line suggest that he has much more to offer in that role than either Durdin or Fantasia or both.

[madbluboy]

A couple of open-field tackles that Williams stuck in the forward line suggest that he has much more to offer in that role than either Durdin or Fantasia or both.

He was terrible for much of the game but his last quarter was OK.

[LP]

He was terrible for much of the game but his last quarter was OK.

Williams offered way more effort, aggression and pressure than some of the others for most of the game, but when you have two or three around you offering nada you can be made look like a goose.

[madbluboy]

Williams offered way more effort, aggression and pressure than some of the others for most of the game, but when you have two or three around you offering nada you can be made look like a goose.

Williams 3 tackles, 13 pressure acts
Fantasia 3 tackles, 13 pressure acts
Owies 1 tackle, 11 pressure acts
O. Hollands 1 tackle, 20 pressure acts
E. Hollands 3 tackles, 21 pressure acts
Durdin 1 tackle, 11 pressure acts.

[LP]

We've talked through the foibles of just relying on the stats before, the AFL definition of things like pressure act or contest as used by Champion Data are so rubbery you often just have to be within 3 or 4 metres of the ball carrier. That's the main reason one rating system can give a player BoG while another often suggests they were mediocre.

So I'm happy to stick with my earlier assessment.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Problem with all those players is not what they are doing which is minimal, its more what the opposition player is doing who plays on them. eg You stick Williams forward then the opposition coach is going to run his best rebounders off him, Flanders had 37 touches last week playing from half back and even running forward, if I'm Hardwick I know who I am sending to play on Williams this week....

[pew2]

until we stop this long bomb game style either from fullback or into F 50 entry we are sitting ducks ,voss and Co need to change especially our f50 entries lower the eyes