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(05-19-2024, 05:53 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Be handy if we could get Motlop and Saad back this week.
In Saad Motlop Cowan Binns Wilson
Out Williams Durdin Fantasia Marchbank O Hollands
Chuck Binns on Ollie's wing, Wilson the sub
Obviously if Weiters doesnt get up, bring Young in for him.
Those ins could not possibly do any worse than what those I would drop dished up.
Jack Silvagni and Vossy both hinted that we might get two players back this week ... and we should know whether Weiters will come up by Tuesday.
I'd be leaving Williams in the 22 purely on the strength of that tackle 
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No effing way. Three years passenger. No more.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
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(05-19-2024, 05:53 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Be handy if we could get Motlop and Saad back this week.
In Saad Motlop Cowan Binns Wilson
Out Williams Durdin Fantasia Marchbank O Hollands
Chuck Binns on Ollie's wing, Wilson the sub
Obviously if Weiters doesnt get up, bring Young in for him.
Those ins could not possibly do any worse than what those I would drop dished up. Think Voss said he expects Motlop and Saad back this week, normally I would want Motlop to have a game in the VFL but given the stakes are getting a bit higher Id play both of them first up from a spell.
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(05-19-2024, 07:47 AM)Professer E link Wrote:No effing way. Three years passenger. No more. Agree...Id probably reward Cowan after he gave us lift in the VFL when moved into the middle, problem with Williams is where do you play him and finding a soft opponent who wont hurt you too much if he gets off the leash.
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Saad, Motlop and hopefully Fogarty coming into the team will help.
Dropping this game is not an option - either is two rucks.
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(05-19-2024, 09:49 AM)pinot date Wrote:Saad, Motlop and hopefully Fogarty coming into the team will help.
Dropping this game is not an option - either is two rucks. TDK is more aerobic and faster across the ground than the bulk of the oppositions rucks and many of the opposition KPPs, he doesn't decrease either our pace or our aerobic capacity, he actually stretches opposition capabilities by increasing our total tall mobility.
If there is a run and carry problem, or chasing tackling issue, it's not from having our two rucks playing. A huge problem Friday night was that our SFs gave us stuff all tackles, Fantasia was tops with 3, Owies and Durdin just 1 a piece. How can it be that opposition score so heavily from turnovers on our HFF yet three SF players have just 6 tackles between them? Kennedy had more than them combined, and our next best was BigH!
It's untenable that you have three players basically not contributing, something is drastically wrong with our SF setup, and Fogarty isn't that much better than them but he's an arm and a leg ahead of what's currently on offer.
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Did our MC overreact to some misfortunes? We had some close losses but they were really misfortunes or bad officiating that cost us more than once while stats continued to look pretty good in most areas. Now in the space of just a couple of weeks, a few tweaks and all the numbers have slide to the point last Friday we had almost no winnings areas.
The tweaks haven't helped they may have actually hurt.
We had a few discussions here a couple of weeks back, when Kennedy was made sub, that we seemed to be making some odd decisions relating to the MC and match day tactics. In effect we seemed to have willingly disrupted a winning formula to try and patch underperforming areas of the team, and in doing so it feels like we ended up pulling down the whole house. The part that was good is now waning under the strain of trying to bridge gaps, and we are left with almost no winning areas at all.
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(05-19-2024, 09:49 AM)pinot link Wrote:Saad, Motlop and hopefully Fogarty coming into the team will help.
Dropping this game is not an option - either is two rucks. Like it or not Pitto is the no 2 ranked ruckman in the comp. Filter for Rucks and watch the magic happen.
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2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(05-19-2024, 12:57 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Like it or not Pitto is the no 2 ranked ruckman in the comp. Filter for Rucks and watch the magic happen.
https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_stats.html?year=2024 Yes because he gets most minutes in there doesn't make him the better ruck imo.
TDK is a ruck not a forward just like H is a forward not a ruck and Young is a back not a ruck.
TDK is being played out of position. No matter who the ruck is (despite TDK being the superior ruck) todays game does not suit two rucks - we have lost past 80% of games with two rucks. Not sure how much more blatant it can get.
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(05-19-2024, 12:56 PM)LP link Wrote:Did our MC overreact to some misfortunes? We had some close losses but they were really misfortunes or bad officiating that cost us more than once while stats continued to look pretty good in most areas. Now in the space of just a couple of weeks, a few tweaks and all the numbers have slide to the point last Friday we had almost no winnings areas.
The tweaks haven't helped they may have actually hurt.
We had a few discussions here a couple of weeks back, when Kennedy was made sub, that we seemed to be making some odd decisions relating to the MC and match day tactics. In effect we seemed to have willingly disrupted a winning formula to try and patch underperforming areas of the team, and in doing so it feels like we ended up pulling down the whole house. The part that was good is now waning under the strain of trying to bridge gaps, and we are left with almost no winning areas at all.
Voss explained that Kennedy and Hewett being the sub is part of our strategy to manage player workload.
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