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(03-09-2024, 04:33 AM)DJC link Wrote:I reckon they'd add some pace to our lineup EB. Even Weiters has got a bit of toe. Not sure I agree DJ......I reckon the one area JW can be found out is with a quicker player who leads well.
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I can't see them sacking Fagan if he gets another top 4 finish.
Miss the eight (and that's pretty unlikely) and he'd be gone.
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(03-09-2024, 11:52 AM)Lods link Wrote:I can't see them sacking Fagan if he gets another top 4 finish.
Miss the eight (and that's pretty unlikely) and he'd be gone. Been there since 2017 as coach ......have built a decent list, cant win at the MCG, think his contract runs out in 2025.
Cant see him lasting that extra season if they dont win the flag, most media scribes have them as favourites which creates extra pressure too..
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How many clubs sack a coach after a top 4 finish for performance reasons.
I know we do
But others???
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I think Fagan is still good with the group, I wouldn’t move him on.
Let’s go BIG !
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(03-09-2024, 07:20 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Attacked? Hardly. And sorry but it is nonsense to suggest there are separate rules for a particular player. nonsense.
Stars get different treatment. Everyone knows it, they get a discount at the tribunal and they get away with things others can't because the afl likes the star factor. Some of them get harshly done by, in contrast. Not sure why it is but it's very subjective and everyone knows it.
When the umps were blowing heavily Brisbane's way they built a 46 point lead.
They are capable of influencing results. They evened it up a bit later on with them giving us a lot of leeway late in the game.
Just because you disagree with a sentiment doesn't make it nonsense, and dusty got away with head high contact fend off's for most of his career. It wasn't until eds larynx that people noticed.
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(03-09-2024, 11:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Not sure I agree DJ......I reckon the one area JW can be found out is with a quicker player who leads well. In terms of closing speed Weiters is OK, high acceleration is very different for different players, the combination of being elite in both is as rare as rocking horse sh1t.
One of the reasons I do not want BigH rucking is that he has above average acceleration and also good straight line top speed. He can create a gap and run down opponents. People seem to not give the rarity of one player of 200cm with both of those attributes enough respect. The one way we can diminish his career and wreck our huge advantage is have him busted up by a Nankervis or Goldstein type.
On our D50, one of the reasons McGovern has worked so well is that he has that high acceleration combined with good reach and overhead capacity. In combination with Weiters they are every bit as good as May and Lever, and as yet our lot haven't been a defensive duo for half as long.
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(03-09-2024, 04:17 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Its interesting with those players being high quality automatics most weeks but the smaller lineup with extra pace vs Brisbane seem to work well and that quartet would make us a lot slower and probably alter Brisbane's tactics. I think you have to include agility in the acceleration and speed combination to understand how we clawed back that result on Friday, if I said Weiters lacked one area it would be agility, but he is not alone for blokes that size, which is lucky for Charlie Curnow.
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I just re-watched the game and I think it's clear we were at our best when TDK rucked with BigH as high forward and Charlie deep or wide. Then we have the luxury of the odd change up, but not so many rotations as we become predictable / systematic.
As I see it, when BigH rucks not only do we put him at risk, but Charlie then has to deal with extra KPD numbers. But when BigH gets mobile as a forward he draws players far enough out of F50 that they can't flood back onto Charlie, provided we move the ball fast enough. When BigH rucks Charlie loses that leveller, things might be different if Martin returns, but some weeks it will be horses for courses and we will go smaller or taller accordingly.
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Watching the game again Doc got 6 kicks in the 2nd qtr with a stuffed ACL and meniscus. Sometimes they hurt but sometime times you feel no extensive pain. No wonder they were shocked when they found the extent of his injury.
ACL's are overrated...lol.
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