The EV thread

[northernblue]

JD Power annual survey on the reliability of Motor vehicles in the USA hasnt done much for EV sales with Tesla and Volvo's offshoot EV brand in Polestar being very problem ridden and leading the way in problems per 100 vehicles in the graph that appears further down the report..
https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-r...-study-iqs
Only real surprise is Mazda performing badly and a usually unreliable entity in RAM proving to be the least buggy in terms of problems with vehicles. Hitlers choice of Transport in Volkswagen and its brother company Audi were very poor which is no real surprise to me and Lexus remains one of the most consistently good brands if you can afford to own one.
Overall I cant see these figures deterring Americans to stick with Gas Guzzling large utes/SUVs and it wont be making me rush out and buy an EV in any hurry.

I havent read that survey but I've read discussions of it EB.
The EV owners believe that the "unreliability issues" are NOT mechanical issues and instead are often minor software issues.
The EV owners point out that this survey is owner complaints rather than recall type situations, a bit like how anti vaxxers were listing every possible ailment known to man and saying it was a adverse vaxx reaction.
Their consensus was that its an anti EV beatup but they're happy EV owners, so who knows ?

[ElwoodBlues1]

I havent read that survey but I've read discussions of it EB.
The EV owners believe that the "unreliability issues" are NOT mechanical issues and instead are often minor software issues.
The EV owners point out that this survey is owner complaints rather than recall type situations, a bit like how anti vaxxers were listing every possible ailment known to man and saying it was a adverse vaxx reaction.
Their consensus was that its an anti EV beatup but they're happy EV owners, so who knows ?

Fair Points NB, My Daughter has a Tesla Model Y(6 months in), its had a recall for a compliance issue and something to do with the reversing camera which I think was another update due to problems that were happening in the USA. Other than that its been fine other than a couple of flat tyres which is common with a lot of EV's that when go over anything like a nail it tends to embed deep due to the extra weight of the car due to the battery setup.  Annoying bit about that is you have to wait for the Tesla service van to arrive as there is no spare tyre or even a space saver spare like most EV's due to having no room and just a silly repair kit which doesnt work for inexperienced users and usually needs a bit of muscle to implement.
They were advised to buy a 3rd party space saver spare which they now carry and a heavy duty jack which wasnt a cheap exercise at the time. Bottom line is you are part of an experiment and I think have to expect recalls, updates and a few other problems as companies fine tune their EV's and deal with problems on the run ...

[LP]

It's quite bizarre to read and hear Elon Musk's current political position, he's basically taking a position that screws over Tesla, the company that gave him pretty much everything he's got so far.

Is that a tell about what Musk thinks of the future viability of EVs?

So it seems he's aligned to Trump's Iron Dome and is all in with SpaceX to profit from military.

[DJC]

Apparently the Elon Musk boycott has caused a slump in EV sales … or is it Tesla’s poor reputation?

[Thryleon]

The Chinese are showing they are doing it better and cheaper.

Nothing more nothing less.

I saw a video.  Wait until xiamoi get their cars here.

[DJC]

The Chinese are showing they are doing it better and cheaper.

Nothing more nothing less.

I saw a video.  Wait until xiamoi get their cars here.

Democrats in the US were buying the vast majority of Teslas.  They're not buying them anymore.

Interesting to see the losses per sale that manufacturers are prepared to wear in order to snare a market share:

https://www.drive.com.au/news/xiaomi-los...ctric-car/

[LP]

China "loses" money on a lot of exports, but it's only a loss if you pay all your bills.

[DJC]

China "loses" money on a lot of exports, but it's only a loss if you pay all your bills.

Ford and Rivian are losing quite a bit more per EV sold.