Sam Newman at it again!

[DJC]

It does and it's been made clear in the media etc to that effect as well but will the voice panel operate under those conditions because it appears toothless at the minute and could be accused of being a token setup with little value going forward and why there doesn't seem to be uniform agreement amongst all first nations people including politicians.

Can you name one group in any society that has uniform agreement about any issue?  Why should Indigenous Australians be any different?

Anyway, as it stands 80% of Indigenous Australians are in favour of the Voice.

[DJC]

There is as much influence and money in this debate for both sides as there is in associate marketing, it's not restricted to a race or religion!

Someone somewhere on both sides pockets some cash.

Please explain how one can make money out of this debate.  I'd like a share 

[DJC]

Eddie Betts says,“I’ve taken my time over the past 12 months, to speak to Elders, community members and people I trust to get more information about the Voice. I’ve listened to a range of opinions and worked hard to understand exactly what the Voice is and how it impacts Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

I know the Voice is not an immediate solution to the many barriers we as Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people face, but I feel like it’s the opening of a pathway to make sure we’re included and respected in decision-making on issues that affect us.”

[mateinone]

Sam Newman. So brave, so tough, so courageous. A real martyr for free speech. Please.

i find a lot (almost all in fact) of what Sam Newman says distasteful. But i want to live in a country where we debate opinions and even allow those who disagree with us to say their piece. Too many in society decry alternate opinions and people even lose their jobs if they publicly disagree... Sam Newman is a tosser, but i stick by it, he has every right to state his opinion, unless he crosses lines that are illegal.

Also i know people like to misquote, which is one of the reasons i gave up on forums.. but  will point out i never said Newman was Tough, Courageous or Brave, nor did i say he was a "martyr for free speech"... i claimed it is important he has the right to disagree even on divisive issues that swaths of society have arbitrarily already declared off limits.

And i would HATE if anyone booed, but i hate all booing.

[PaulP]

i find a lot (almost all in fact) of what Sam Newman says distasteful. But i want to live in a country where we debate opinions and even allow those who disagree with us to say their piece. Too many in society decry alternate opinions and people even lose their jobs if they publicly disagree... Sam Newman is a tosser, but i stick by it, he has every right to state his opinion, unless he crosses lines that are illegal.

Also i know people like to misquote, which is one of the reasons i gave up on forums.. but  will point out i never said Newman was Tough, Courageous or Brave, nor did i say he was a "martyr for free speech"... i claimed it is important he has the right to disagree even on divisive issues that swaths of society have arbitrarily already declared off limits.

And i would HATE if anyone booed, but i hate all booing.

Firstly I apologise for misquoting you.

Newman, and others of his ilk, wouldn't know a debate if it bit him on the ar$e. He has no interest in debating, he has no interest in understanding anything in any depth, he has no interest in anything other than just gobbing off to anything he doesn't like. He is the first one to shoot down anyone who disagrees with him, with all manner of insults and dismissive cr@p.

Free speech is not equally distributed among the population - they are blatant power asymmetries that give people like him leverage that others don't have. Newman speaks from a position of privilege and status that affords him protection from any real punishment. Imagine if Lidia Thorpe came out and said we should all burn Australian flags and slow clap during the National Anthem ? There's a reason why hate speech is used predominately by protected groups like the one to which Newman belongs.

[DJC]

Guess what? No-one booed ?

[Micky0]

I hate all booing too and I respect freedum, sorry Freedom Of speech, but if some fool that has had more airtime than all of us x100 combined for no other reason than he is a stale pale old
middle class male that has always had that freedom, above others, to voice what he thinks with no retribution ever, then I do not respect nor value that opinion.

And it’s not just him voicing an opinion. It is him also telling people to boo the WTC. So he’s advocating not only to disapprove Of it but to actively voice that.

Embarrassing stupid fool.

[DJC]

i find a lot (almost all in fact) of what Sam Newman says distasteful. But i want to live in a country where we debate opinions and even allow those who disagree with us to say their piece. Too many in society decry alternate opinions and people even lose their jobs if they publicly disagree... Sam Newman is a tosser, but i stick by it, he has every right to state his opinion, unless he crosses lines that are illegal.

Also i know people like to misquote, which is one of the reasons i gave up on forums.. but  will point out i never said Newman was Tough, Courageous or Brave, nor did i say he was a "martyr for free speech"... i claimed it is important he has the right to disagree even on divisive issues that swaths of society have arbitrarily already declared off limits.

And i would HATE if anyone booed, but i hate all booing.

There’s a big difference between stating an opinion and advocating an action that would be offensive to many Australians.

Newman has been irrelevant since the twilight of his playing career but some folk will be emboldened by his call to disrespect the welcome to country and, by extension, First Nations peoples.

Freedom of speech brings with it responsibilities and media outlets that provide a platform for the likes of Newman have a responsibility not to promote disharmony.

[Micky0]

Guess what? No-one booed ?

In fact, a huge cheer at the end of it.

Hm is Sam Newman, irrelevant ?

[DJC]

In fact, a huge cheer at the end of it.

Hm is Sam Newman, irrelevant ?

But for Newman, and others of his ilk, that’s just down to sheeple and intimidation.

He will never concede that he’s wrong or that he misread public opinion.