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AFL Rd 24 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS
#41
(08-28-2023, 01:08 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Couldn't agree more. Can't see him being dropped. So many of his touches are quality and quick releases, not obvious. Important player.

I think that's the key with a player like Cunningham.
It also applies to Binns in the VFL.

If you asked me how many touches he had last night I would have said probably around 10.
Same with Binns, you don't really notice the impact, but you look down at the stat sheet and 'bang' he's had another half dozen while you weren't looking.
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#42
The one ruckman ploy should be dead and buried now. JSOS is unlikely so Pittonet simply has to play. Harry is not, and never has been, a ruckman. Easily pushed out of the contest and coming back off a knee injury that was a risk IMO. If nothing else, Harry can play as a high forward and push up the ground...early in the season when he wasn't kicking goals, he was taking a lot of contested marks up the ground.

Fisher's run as a defender should also be over. If we want to play another small defender, I'd have Boyd in there ahead of Fisher...uses the ball much better. Fisher is very one sided and he got caught out a few times.

Hopefully Acres and Weitering are both good to go. On the assumption that they both are, I'd have Cripps, Doc, Pittonet and Motlop back in. Fisher, Fogarty, Durdin and one other out.....maybe Dow gets pushed to sub and Marchbank goes out? Although Sydney can load up with McDonald, Amartey and McLean so Marchbank might be an option.

I thought Dow was good early yesterday and showed some good breakaway pace but was caught out after half time.
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#43
(08-28-2023, 01:40 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:The one ruckman ploy should be dead and buried now. JSOS is unlikely so Pittonet simply has to play. Harry is not, and never has been, a ruckman. Easily pushed out of the contest and coming back off a knee injury that was a risk IMO. If nothing else, Harry can play as a high forward and push up the ground...early in the season when he wasn't kicking goals, he was taking a lot of contested marks up the ground.

Fisher's run as a defender should also be over. If we want to play another small defender, I'd have Boyd in there ahead of Fisher...uses the ball much better. Fisher is very one sided and he got caught out a few times.

Hopefully Acres and Weitering are both good to go. On the assumption that they both are, I'd have Cripps, Doc, Pittonet and Motlop back in. Fisher, Fogarty, Durdin and one other out.....maybe Dow gets pushed to sub and Marchbank goes out? Although Sydney can load up with McDonald, Amartey and McLean so Marchbank might be an option.

I thought Dow was good early yesterday and showed some good breakaway pace but was caught out after half time.

He chance of fitting Kennedy back in???
2024... Moir of the same to come
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#44
Phantom....Kennedy would replace Dow but probably nobody else. But he will have missed a lot of footy by the time the first final comes around so might not be worth the risk. I thought Dow showed some glimpses yesterday with breakaway pace and centre clearances but let himself down a couple of times with brain fades....ducked into a tackle looking for high contact and then giving away that 50m which cost a goal.
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#45
old Carlton back long bomb into F50 only to watch opposition run it out or my 2nd fav the long bomb from fullback kick ins only to watch ball come straight back ,i hope this changes v swanetts.
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#46
I think the purpose of the game was to ensure Charlie won the Coleman and to get game time into Cerra, McKay, Walsh, McGovern, Durdin and to rest Cripps, Docherty and Pittonett. It would have been good to win but GWS wanted and needed to win more. I thought Cerra, Walsh and Durdin got better as  the match wore on and losing Acres in the third didn't help. I thought Marchbank was good when he came on but our team balance got out of wack.
We got smashed in the centre clearances though Dow was probably our best. Overall we were off. We gave two goals from 50's and Fisher cost us a goal coming out of the back. Owies and Durdin both missed from 15 metres and I still don't know how Hollands goal was overturned.
Since Collingwood whinged about Charlie getting free kicks our key forwards haven't been getting much protection from the umpires.
Hopefully we can tighten up over the next couple of weeks.
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#47
(08-28-2023, 06:26 AM)Blue Moon link Wrote:I think the purpose of the game was to ensure Charlie won the Coleman and to get game time into Cerra, McKay, Walsh, McGovern, Durdin and to rest Cripps, Docherty and Pittonett. It would have been good to win but GWS wanted and needed to win more. I thought Cerra, Walsh and Durdin got better as  the match wore on and losing Acres in the third didn't help. I thought
Gov was terrible yesterday, appart from being short of a gallop, his disposal was all over the shop. A mate of mine and I both thought he spent to much time worrying about his man as opposed to the see-ball-get-ball intercept game.
Durdin is a worry, I have been a big rap for him, yes he has been out for a while, yes he is young but Motlop has gone passed him giving him windburn along the way. I thought he was a witches hat for all 4 qtrs last night as opposed to the others who only that for a half. He will be straight out next game and I doubt we will see him in again this year no matter how far we go.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#48
Despite the negatives re performance, scores were level half-way through the third, and we were barely setting the world on fire.  Then Acres gets subbed out with a shoulder injury.

Can't help guessing that every player started think about self-preservation from that point on - it certainly looked like it.  Turned into a basketball game from that point on.  No hammys or concussions needed for a worthless prize.

2 weeks from now is a different season.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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#49
Thank goodness.. Weiters gets a fine ?
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.
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#50

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/30/i...post-game/

Greene can be a bit of a dick ( a lot of the time), but he's a seriously good footballer.
He plays with a bit of emotion, and it probably sees him cross a line every now and then.
I believe he thinks he's probably a bit "hard done by" with some of the criticism that comes his way.

With that in mind...
I thought at the time his comments weren't so much about Weitering, but more about what he perceived was an injustice to himself...."I got done for that, he should too!"

Anyway, He's made an apology, he got it wrong.


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