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Game has changed, enforcers have been forced out of the game with all the cameras and media scrutiny.
You can't tackle or bump to the extent you could either and it's really a TV game now that has to look good and be free of the old fashioned physicality.
It's becoming more common to see players pull out of contests and a lot of the heavy contact is more accidental than planned and you don't find players evening up with others anymore as it's too costly in terms of free kicks/ easy goals.
Josh Rachele was highlighted for his aggressive reactive actions but it was all fresh air and bravado but zero contact or impact.
Dinosaurs like Mumford our now extinct ...
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07-18-2023, 09:41 AM
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(07-18-2023, 07:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Game has changed, enforcers have been forced out of the game with all the cameras and media scrutiny.
You can't tackle or bump to the extent you could either and it's really a TV game now that has to look good and be free of the old fashioned physicality.
It's becoming more common to see players pull out of contests and a lot of the heavy contact is more accidental than planned and you don't find players evening up with others anymore as it's too costly in terms of free kicks/ easy goals.
Josh Rachele was highlighted for his aggressive reactive actions but it was all fresh air and bravado but zero contact or impact.
Dinosaurs like Mumford our now extinct ...
Nailed it EB; the consequences of thuggery and/or retaliation are too great nowadays and any decent hits are generally the result of very infrequent brain snaps. It’s also commonplace for players to have friends and family among the opposition. That wasn’t the case back in the days of the king hits and all in punch ups - although Big Nick and Polly Farmer used to go to the races together after belting the bejesus out of each other ?
However, there’s still an element of physical intimidation and looking after your mates. Weitering was incredibly quick to get to Boyd after Byrne-Jones’ flop had a few of Port’s players agitated.
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But it's apparently still ok to elbow people off the ball
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
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(07-18-2023, 11:18 AM)Professer E link Wrote:But it's apparently still ok to elbow people off the ball Dusty is an AFL marquee brand player like Buddy and a few others and the star player discount applies......Witherden got up and continued which always lightens the impact in the eyes of the MRP.
I think there should be penalties for that type of behaviour but star players in most sports get away with that stuff. His mate Cotchin is another name player who thinks he can snipe other players and get away with it as well.
It is ludicrous Boyd gets three for a over zealous tackle at worst and these other name players get nothing for deliberate strikes...no fines, suspended penalties etc...
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A lot of fans on here were potting Boyd just a few days ago, now they are complaining he's been rogered!
Personally I'll be very disappointed if the club doesn't appeal, it's not about guilt or innocence, it's about sending a message that we will stick by our players and make sure they are treated justly!
I'm also shocked but not surprised the AFLPA hasn't had something to say about this because it is becoming untenable, but it's all about long term legal liability, there will be lawyers and legal advocates whispering in ears everywhere, beware the future, beware the future. Yet you wouldn't be at all shocked to find the very same lawyers running a civil concussion case in a few years, such is their nature!
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(07-18-2023, 10:09 PM)LP link Wrote:A lot of fans on here were potting Boyd just a few days ago, now they are complaining he's been rogered!
Personally I'll be very disappointed if the club doesn't appeal, it's not about guilt or innocence, it's about sending a message that we will stick by our players and make sure they are treated justly!
I'm also shocked but not surprised the AFLPA hasn't had something to say about this because it is becoming untenable, but it's all about long term legal liability, there will be lawyers and legal advocates whispering in ears everywhere, beware the future, beware the future. Yet you wouldn't be at all shocked to find the very same lawyers running a civil concussion case in a few years, such is their nature! I'm not a fan of Boyd the player but this was an unfair penalty and the club should appeal. 3 weeks for that tackle is overs but that's the rub of the green for
no name players compared to a name or marquee player and that's my main gripe.
No way is Petracca, N. Daicos ,or Cripps getting 3 weeks for that tackle...
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(07-18-2023, 10:09 PM)LP link Wrote:A lot of fans on here were potting Boyd just a few days ago, now they are complaining he's been rogered!
Personally I'll be very disappointed if the club doesn't appeal, it's not about guilt or innocence, it's about sending a message that we will stick by our players and make sure they are treated justly!
I'm also shocked but not surprised the AFLPA hasn't had something to say about this because it is becoming untenable, but it's all about long term legal liability, there will be lawyers and legal advocates whispering in ears everywhere, beware the future, beware the future. Yet you wouldn't be at all shocked to find the very same lawyers running a civil concussion case in a few years, such is their nature! you can think a bloke is a spud and still think he's been shafted.
I dont think he's that bad anymore. I thought he was rubbish, but he's been upgraded to serviceable.
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(07-19-2023, 11:09 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:you can think a bloke is a spud and still think he's been shafted.
I dont think he's that bad anymore. I thought he was rubbish, but he's been upgraded to serviceable.
I'm a sucker for a worker. True, IMO your fortunes are dictated by your bottom 6 or so players every week. If the gap between them and your top 16 or 17 is too large, youre doomed. If those bottom 6 dont pull their weight, youre doomed. We have been so even across the board in the last 4 or 5 weeks, the results speak for themselves.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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