AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast

[Micky0]

Also, it is much easier when there is space and much less pressure - and still there were some unpressured turnovers.

This. There was hardly any pressure Altho in saying that we were not fking around with it, we got it and moved it on immediately. No stopping, propping, looking around - it was bang bang bang.

So maybe it’s half half, half we weren’t severely pressured because of the opposition but also half we didn’t put ourselves in the position of being constantly pressured by moving it on quickly.

[Baggers]

Warmed the cockles to see that tackle pressure... gang tackles... fair-dinkum stuff. Loved it. The defensive pressure was first rate.

When we got the aggott... dare, risk and run. Loved it. Amazing how quick you look as a side when you put speed on the pill.

As previously mentioned, the MC got it right - no passengers. Strong points of difference. Cunners and Martin running around the forward line add much needed class. Fog fitted in beautifully.

The backline was as mean a cat shyte. Kemp cemented a deserved place. Boyd coming along nicely. Cincotta is becoming a cult hero. Plenty of mongrel among our defenders as well - love it.

Love the spread of goal kickers. A truly dangerous forward line and midfield - all like a snag.

Welcome back, Crippa - champ. Cerra led the charge from the onset - class act.

Leadership + discipline = confidence. Now for more of the same against the Dawks.

[tonyo]

I'm sitting there on the half-forward flank after an insipid first quarter, and I though to myself "What the hell was that....?"

I'm in the same spot 30 minutes later, and I'm thinking "What the hell was THAT?!!""

They say a week's a long time in footy, but 30 minutes?

Let's hope the lessons stay learned.

[madbluboy]

Suns were in good form. Pre game they were showing that they were top 4 in centre clearances and scoring. We were bottom 4 in the same categories.

[ElwoodBlues1]

GC have an 18% winning percentage away from home. Bookies had us as favourites even with our horrible form.
A bit of perspective along with the hysteria of winning needed imho.
We had way more possessions but only a few more inside 50s so we are still fecking around with the  ball too much and both teams were down on contested and uncontested possession averages.
I want to see way more evidence that we are competitive vs decent teams before we award the likes of Boyd, Martin etc accolades like some want to do based on one game vs a team that away from home are one level up from West Coast...

[shawny]

The fans certainly have a real soft spot for Dow and by the look of the after game celebrations so do his team mates.  I'm really hoping Voss and co have used the sub option for other reasons then what us arm chair experts only see.  Could it be a personal tactic to help develop him breaking his game down to a full out burst on a 1/4 of a game to set a bar on what is needed and if he is capable.  In bursts he shows he can be a damaging midfielder just hoping he can emulate it for longer periods then he has shown in the past

Dow is one player that will be busting his as5 with any chance he gets for the remainder of the year and im hoping Voss has not yet put a line through him and gives him the second half of the year before making a call.

TDK showed why he is wanted commodity on the open market. As a ruckman he still has a lot of growth yet to come but around the ground and especially forward he is a dangerous option and one opposition defenders need to keep their eye on when he floats forward.

Clumsy Pit on the other hand has one tool in his tool kit and once the bounce is over he is pretty much useless.

TDK is not the full package yet and may be earning more then he is worth for now but If you take the blue glasses off you can clearly see the major point of difference between between our 2 ruckman. TDK ceiling is high and being in the Gawn/English mould can see why he is going to get a healthy contract.

I hope we can retain him but think its unlikely. 

[LP]

Clumsy Pit on the other hand has one tool in his tool kit and once the bounce is over he is pretty much useless.

That's not fair on Pitto, he's fine when used to his strengths, but he is not a running type ruck. He needs to be in the push and shove and floating across CHB to take away opposition space.

Last weekend was the first time this season we've used the two rucks to their best advantage, Pitto controlling the opposition momentum and TDK attacking.

By the end of the game TDK was gaining confidence and also clunked an intercept mark.

[Gointocarlton]

That's not fair on Pitto, he's fine when used to his strengths, but he is not a running type ruck. He needs to be in the push and shove and floating across CHB to take away opposition space.

Last weekend was the first time this season we've used the two rucks to their best advantage, Pitto controlling the opposition momentum and TDK attacking.

By the end of the game TDK was gaining confidence and also clunked an intercept mark.

And managed to sit Witts on his ass 2 or 3 times with some fair bumps, the one on the interchange wing in the 3rd qtr (I think) was a beauty.

[WASurfer]

Good way to start the week!

Too many positives outta that one to list (not hard after the last 6 weeks) but all of the issues that WERE a problem, we overcame them in that game.

Mids dominated and nearly all hit the scoreboard. No reliance on Harry and Charlie to kick all the goals....8 or 9 different goalkickers....can't remember the last time that happened. Set shot kicking for the most part was spot on....even by blokes like Cripps and Cottrell who can often spray them.

IMO that was Kemp's best game for us and he looks to have grown in confidence in the last month....he's taking the game on, using his run to advantage and his kicking has been a feature. In fact, him, Cincotta and Boyd were all good yesterday and used the ball well. I was suggesting Doc to go back yesterday but their efforts freed Doc up who played a great game through the middle.

While they weren't huge in disposals, I thought Cunningham and Fogarty offered a point of difference yesterday...something we haven't had with Fisher and Motlop in recent weeks.

TDK's best game in awhile and even though beaten in a lot of the ruck contests, he got around the ground and hit the scoreboard too.

And maybe we just have to temper the expectations with Jack Martin and realise he's can be a low possesion, high impact player....he offers a bit of X-factor that we don't really have on the list. Some of his stuff yesterday, especially early, was really good.

And rapt to see Dow's effort too. 8 possessions in the last quarter....he couldn't have done much more and was very effective. He looked to enjoy it and get some confidence. At one point in the last quarter on TV you could hear the crowd give him a big cheer too. I'd like to see him in the starting 22 but hard to see us making too many changes for the next game.

[rocky]

Have watched the game a couple of times now. After 6 weeks of pain can you blame me? Here are my observations for what it's worth
Acres - OK but needs to kick less and handball more
Boyd - I like this kid for his drive, his pace and his kicking. Think he could potentially end up on ball but we'll see. Some not sold on him yet but until he starts to butcher it he's a lock.
Cerra - Great. Clearly has the John Nicholls medal in the bag. Much like when we picked up Saad didn't think he was worth it but concede I was wrong.
Cincotta - Very much like him at the moment and like Boyd has some toe and kicks well. He likes to take em on and uses well in most cases.
Cottrell - Had a couple of average weeks prior but yesterday he was very good.
Cripps - Just a different player. Does that mean he's no longer injured? When he's playing like that AND kicking goals it's a joy to watch. How is it so?
Cuningham - A couple of his disposals were wayward but overall a solid return. He has some really nice moves, baulks well, sells candy, can improve.
Curnow - Pretty good. Looked dangerous at times and could have had a real big game but at times he hangs back when the ball is coming in instead of moving towards the kicker. Annoying. Over thinks things at times as well.
De Koning - Pretty damn good. Took marks early and I think it lifts his confidence. Better than Pitt on the day
Docherty - The luxury of him around the contest instead of on a HBF is a real bonus. Very good game.
Dow - 2 weeks in a row as the super-sub has proven he may have a future? Does he get a real game?
Fogarty - Got his chance and did pretty well
Kemp - Great game on someone twice his size in most cases. His run-down and tackle on Sexton in the last was a real highlight for me. Brilliant.
Kennedy - Got better as the game went on and by the end was back to his best I thought.
Martin - I hope he stays fit because he has the skills and brains to be a real influence. I also hope Motlop watches the tape to see how a small forward is supposed to operate. Front and centre at the feet of the forwards
McGovern - Pretty solid but gee, some of those kicks of his are absolutely atrocious. Just tries to be too clever IMO.
McKay - Better game for Harry. Hope he can get some more confidence and continue on for the rest of the year.
Newman- Really good return, Suprised by how quickly he slotted back in. Some of his kicks were sublime.
Owies - Serviceable
Pittonet - Battled against Witts. Probably our weakest link.
Saad - Effective kick. Hard runner. Typical solid effort.
Walsh - Porbably his best game for quite some time. Effective user of the ball. Just wished he had've kicked that last shot on goal.Deserved it.
Weitering - Beat King, pretty much. I do think his kicking can be very flaky at times, but still a world better to where he was 3 weeks ago.

Overall an impressive performance but all the planets seemed to be in alignment. Team selection looks to have sorted some of our issues with speed and ball use but for how long? Not happy about having the bye and no confidence against the Hawks. If Sicily stays suspended then I may have a little bit more optimism.

Lets enjoy the next 2 weeks