AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

[Professer E]

A prima facie example.  The gameplan. The Collingwood game highlighted that this list has no clue how to move that ball and deliver inside F50 to a forward's advantage.  Basic stuff you learn from u14 level. 

We were told that the emphasis this summer was ball movement.  So what were the drills and why didn't they stick?

[shawny]

A better comparison for us would probably be Richmond, Western Bulldogs, and Melbourne, all three of whom were mired in nothingness for ever, and then suddenly got their sh1t together against all expectations.

Very different to our list build. Those teams you mention played finals and had a few years of high table finishes we have been bottom dwellers and haven’t played a single final in 9 years. And yes I’m writing this year off as well.

You can always find a positive or some hope but we are entitled to be very concerned that this rebuild will amount to zilch as I’ve seen nothing to suggest otherwise. 

[Lods]

Interesting tweet!

Hopefully to fall on their swords.

[Lods]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/27/i...questions/

“It is hard to know what their identity is, I don’t know what their game style is,” Gibbs told SEN SA Breakfast.

“There’s teams in the competition that when you watch them you know what they’re doing, you can tell what type of game plan they’re implementing.

“Watching Carlton at the moment, I couldn’t tell you what they’re trying to do off half back, I couldn’t tell you what their forward patterns should look like.

“They’ve potentially got one of the best midfields in the competition, but they just aren’t winning clearances, they aren’t working for each other.

“Their ball movement, decision making, and their skill execution is far below what it needs to be at this level of footy.

“If you put pressure on Carlton, they’re just going to give it back to you, that’s known competition wide.

“They’re getting a lot of the ball it’s just they aren’t doing anything with it, for the first time over the last couple of weeks having watched them play, I’ve become extremely frustrated.”

[pinot]

Interesting tweet!

Yes maybe they recognise they are the problem.

[Baggers]

Before we go making wholesale changes to the list, I'd be leaving no stone unturned trying to get the mental aspects sorted out. The Richmond boys have waxed lyrical about Emma Murray, the Tigers current / former? sports psychologist, who they credit as having a big impact on their success.

Well said, Pauly. Emma understood how warriors need to be warriors but need that 'something' that created unity of purpose, a clearly defined common cause. Singing from the same hymn book.

Our 'head space' is all over the shop... consequence? No confidence, second guessing each other, cautious, individual.

[Baggers]

Indeed. The whole is more than the sum of its parts.

My guess of the mystery component has something to do with fun. When there's a sort of harmony within the club. So that all individuals feel safe, valued, and strongly committed to the greater good. Where all individuals are well matched to their very clear goals. Where performance is reviewed regularly with transparency, learning focus, and clear process forward.

Of course the bringing together of those individuals is the most important process of all. Ok. I'm just dreaming now. Guess that's my way of coping with another disappointment ?

Go Blues

Love this, LN.

Whoever is in charge of our between the lugholes stuff is failing, badly, to unite and create a team dynamic. Probably doing well in the creation of model citizens, but failing to bring forth the bold warrior within each, wanting and willing to really hurt for his mates.

Mentally, we're a dog's breakfast. No shared team clarity of purpose, leadership, discipline and ruthlessness.

[LP]

What was better this week.

Weiters and McGovern worked well in the absence of Young, there was little confusion and the pair had 9 and 7 intercepts respectively, they basically kept us in the game. I thought Kemp was OK despite a couple of clangers. We've been stating we need better efficiency and McGovern went at 89% DE.

Despite kicking for goal like crap Charlie has a night out with contested marks against reasonable opposition, he's in good form and just needs to keep working hard and he'll have another day out soon.

Acres and Cerra were better this week, although Cerra might have a week off, that aggression is exactly what we need. We need some aggression directed at opponents not just the pill, we can't play 100% of footy as the hunted, we have to do some of our own hunting! I think Cerra's defensive work / pressure was his best all season.

Cottrell's best game for the season, perhaps his best game for the club!

[Gointocarlton]

What was better this week.

Weiters and McGovern worked well in the absence of Young, there was little confusion and the pair had 9 and 7 intercepts respectively, they basically kept us in the game. I thought Kemp was OK despite a couple of clangers. We be saying we need better efficiency and McGovern went at 89% DE.

Despite kicking for goal like crap Charlie has a night out with contested marks against reasonable opposition, he's in good form and just needs to keep working hard and he'll have another day out soon.

Acres and Cerra were better this week, although Cerra might have a week off, that aggression is exactly what we need. We need some aggression directed at opponents not just the pill, we can't play 100% of footy as the hunted, we have to do some of our own hunting!

Cottrell's best game for the season, perhaps his best game for the club!

Interesting, I can't really comment as I didn't watch the first 3 qtrs. I'm basing my thoughts on what I saw in the last and game stats. I saw the game was close until the end where the Swans blew it away at the but we had chances to hit the front and win in the last. A loss is a loss and comments on this forum, others like it and in the media tell the story. Our season is all but over and the repercussions are unknown at this stage.

[LP]

Interesting, I can't really comment as I didn't watch the first 3 qtrs. I'm basing my thoughts on what I saw in the last and game stats. I saw the game was close until the end where the Swans blew it away at the but we had chances to hit the front and win in the last. A loss is a loss and comments on this forum, others like it and in the media tell the story. Our season is all but over and the repercussions are unknown at this stage.

We basically had only one left on the bench for the last 35mins of the game, and Kennedy and Cripps went back on carrying injuries, this came after the relatively early loss of Hewett.

We basically run out of legs, we could only use 60 of our 75 interhcanges.