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IIRC, early last season, Cripps and company dominated centre clearances and we took advantage of the 6/6/6 rule so that we could kick into an uncluttered forward line without being particularly precise.
Subsequently, we have not been as effective in centre clearances and have increasingly tried to move the ball forward without the ability to consistently find a teammate or even kick to advantage when the opposition has already flooded back.
I would like to see if my recollections are supported by statistics so I am wondering if anyone has or has access to statistics that show:
- a game-by-game breakdown of scoring from centre clearances compared to other means
- a game-by-game breakdown of any other stats connected to centre clearances, e.g. ruckman by ruckman / whether the centre clearances exited towards goal or towards the wing or flank / or anything of that kind
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This is a good post. I've also tried for a couple of years, but I can't find any way of getting them. Champion Data and journalists only throw out a few advanced stats here and there when they have a point to make. Unless you happen to be looking for the same thing at the same time as some article appears, you'd be hard pressed IMO.
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05-23-2023, 05:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-23-2023, 05:32 AM by LP.)
I completely concur with [member=230]RiverRat[/member] , the strict Stand and 6/6/6 rule in combination gave our team of heavy bodied clearance specialist an edge, and now the changes and tweaks to the "rule interpretations" for 2023 we lost the advantages.
But personally, I had expected a better year than ever for BigH and Charlie, given the changes in the umpiring I expected more of the scragging and arm chop penalties to go the way of our Twin Coleman medallists, but in fact it seems to have hurt them!
Separately, tunnelling is back, on multiple occasions over the last few weeks we've seen Weiters, McGovern, BigH and Cripps all tunnelled in marking contests without penalty. What chance do we have?
Last weekend, BigH straight out punched in the back of the head by Moore, Moore's arm horizontal while BigH tries to mark arms up overhead, the umpire with a perfect side on view and no penalty. Filth fans were laughing about it, just horrendous umpiring! Yet they'll see and penalise the slightest tug of a jumper from 50m away!
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Not that advanced but we have dropped in Centre clearances this year.
Centre Clearances/Centre Clearance Differential
2023: 16th (10.6 pre game) / 13th (-0.6 per game)
2022: 7th (12.4 per game) / 6th (0.8 per game)
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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One stat I noticed while looking up that was StKilda #1 and Carlton #2 for total marks and there was a bit of a gap to 3rd.
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(05-23-2023, 06:21 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:One stat I noticed while looking up that was StKilda #1 and Carlton #2 for total marks and there was a bit of a gap to 3rd.
thats because we play a very heavy mark kick sideways style at the back before going the long bomb down the line to a contest.
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(05-23-2023, 08:54 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Was their any breakdown between contested and non contested marks?......linking it into what Thry was talking about with plenty of sideways action before the long bomb...
Just as long as you realise to be labelled a "contested mark" you only need an opponent in the immediate vicinity, just close enough to warrant a momentary glance.
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