AFL Rd 10 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

[Gointocarlton]

Small forwards might be part of the issue but thought Owies was great the other night. He's kicked 9 goals in 3 and a bit games this season.

More importantly, 9 goals 1 behind. Extremely accurate is Matty, a rare commodity.

[Thryleon]

It's like they don't want to kick to a contest, chip around for a better option then ultimately kick it to a pack of 20 players.

I think it's because our players had a crap off season so we are trying to control the tempo to give us a chance to win. 

The tell was docherty and Saad coming back so quick on the back of injuries that usually cost weeks and weeks. 

We look like we are in very poor condition generally. The bulldogs easily found another gear when it was needed. 

Fans on here told me their mindsets when they were more annoyed by throwing the last 10 minutes away, but for me it was too late.  That first half was so bad that I wasn't worried about the result.  1 goal from 20 plus inside 50s is way too wasteful.

[cookie2]

More importantly, 9 goals 1 behind. Extremely accurate is Matty, a rare commodity.

Agree. We need a couple more to keep him company.

[Professer E]

We traditionally have problems against the same players every time against this mob.  That's crap coaching.

For starters, I'd be playing TdK and H as a tag team on Moore and play way up the ground, maybe on a wing as an outlet option for defence.  Surely they can out mark anybody if Moore doesn't follow them down the ground?  Make the pies react to us and buy more real estate in the corridor not the wings.  Going wide doesn't work.

Charlie stays inside 50.  Clear it out  Deal with that pies.  Make them sweat.

Owies + 1 as hit up/ground level options.  Owies consistently finds space.

Kennedy starts across half forward as an additional hit up option.

Kemp plays as, probably as the sub, he's more versatile size-wise as a defender. Young may be the one to miss.

Park somebody on Daicos and make him accountable, maybe Docherty is smart enough to hurt him by sneaking some shots on goal if Daicos gets loose?  And Docherty can be effective in all parts of the ground.

No kick chasing in defence - none.  Maybe MacG for deGoey, he's about the right size.

I was tempted to pick Dow but all midfielders are going to have to run very hard both ways for us to win this, but Dow running forwards at every opportunity is something I like the sound of.

[Gointocarlton]

We traditionally have problems against the same players every time against this mob.  That's crap coaching.

For starters, I'd be playing TdK and H as a tag team on Moore and play way up the ground, maybe on a wing as an outlet option for defence.  Surely they can out mark anybody if Moore doesn't follow them down the ground?  Make the pies react to us and buy more real estate in the corridor not the wings.  Going wide doesn't work.

Charlie stays inside 50.  Clear it out  Deal with that pies.  Make them sweat.

Owies + 1 as hit up/ground level options.  Owies consistently finds space.

Kennedy starts across half forward as an additional hit up option.

Kemp plays as, probably as the sub, he's more versatile size-wise as a defender. Young may be the one to miss.

Park somebody on Daicos and make him accountable, maybe Docherty is smart enough to hurt him by sneaking some shots on goal if Daicos gets loose?  And Docherty can be effective in all parts of the ground.

No kick chasing in defence - none.  Maybe MacG for deGoey, he's about the right size.

I was tempted to pick Dow but all midfielders are going to have to run very hard both ways for us to win this, but Dow running forwards at every opportunity is something I like the sound of.

I like the idea of Doc to Daicos. The obvious one to me was Cottrell.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I like the idea of Doc to Daicos. The obvious one to me was Cottrell.

Need more than one player on Nick, his running is off the charts. Cottrell has struggled keeping up with Josh in the past and you need a few players to work them over. I like the idea of someone who can punish Nick for not defending  and force Collingwood to change their plans.
It's the pace and ball movement of Collingwood that kills you, they always have that overlap runner and I think that's why the Crows were able to almost match them because they are young and have leg speed to keep up.
We could do with a wet day to make it more contested and slow the game up.

[Gointocarlton]

Need more than one player on Nick, his running is off the charts. Cottrell has struggled keeping up with Josh in the past and you need a few players to work them over. I like the idea of someone who can punish Nick for not defending  and force Collingwood to change their plans.
It's the pace and ball movement of Collingwood that kills you, they always have that overlap runner and I think that's why the Crows were able to almost match them because they are young and have leg speed to keep up.
We could do with a wet day to make it more contested and slow the game up.

I tend to think they dont care if he doesn't defend, the maths says he does more good than harm. I think you need to limit the good. I'd back Cottrell in to keep up with him all day and hurt him offensively also.

[ratlice]

Need more than one player on Nick, his running is off the charts. Cottrell has struggled keeping up with Josh in the past and you need a few players to work them over. I like the idea of someone who can punish Nick for not defending  and force Collingwood to change their plans.
It's the pace and ball movement of Collingwood that kills you, they always have that overlap runner and I think that's why the Crows were able to almost match them because they are young and have leg speed to keep up.
We could do with a wet day to make it more contested and slow the game up.

Me thinks we have bigger issues to worry about than opposition players, like 1 goal from 29 entries!!!

[ElwoodBlues1]

I tend to think they dont care if he doesn't defend, the maths says he does more good than harm. I think you need to limit the good. I'd back Cottrell in to keep up with him all day and hurt him offensively also.

Cottrell has really struggled on Josh and Sidebottom in the past.Thought he ran out of gas vs the Dogs....

[madbluboy]

Cottrell has really struggled on Josh and Sidebottom in the past.Thought he ran out of gas vs the Dogs....

That was one game last year where we had no backline and he was pushing back to help out clearly by instruction.
He is the best runner at our club and one of the best in the AFL. He had a game high 27 (running over 24km/hr for more than 1 second) sprints last week which is actually low for him.