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The top 8 teams we played so far we are worse off on average approx 4 goals.
We have the same points against as Brisbane and better points against than Port and Geelong. So I think our defence is top eight material
Points for in terms of hitting the scoreboard we are woeful. It's not bottom four - but somewhere between 14th and 10th.
We changed coaches last year and got the defensive side of the game in order. If the defensive side of the game can hold-up I think ball movement and small forward mix needs not an adjustment but a complete overhaul.
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(05-14-2023, 01:08 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:Sorry, EB1, you're dreaming. Will keep the faith one more week Macca...?
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Time for a reality check. A couple of years ago Weitering was bereft of confidence, had a week in the 2s and came back firing.
Out: Weitering Cincotta Acres
In: Boyd, Binns, Kemp
Collingwood aren't exceptionally tall up forward and we need more pace. Young, MGovern, Kemp can handle the talls, Boyd give us pace and kicking accuracy and Binns deserves a go....Acres deserves a rest!
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Anyone know if theres any restrictions around the quantity of Vaseline your aloud to take into the MCG?
This ones gonna hurt...
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Pies will rub our noses in it. They will relish the opportunity to stick it to an old foe and give us the killer punch like they did in the last round last year.
We have no Mongrel and are devoid from a true follow me type leader. We are playing with no belief and doubt we have the mental capacity in this group to use a massive game against such a mentally strong group of players in collingwood to get that confidence back.
Not expecting a thrashing but will be a very comfortable pies win 35-50 points.
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Carl v Coll
The biggest, oldest and only true rivalry IMO
Forget form
Forget ladder position
Forget what happened rnd 23 last year
Its at the G
Sell out crowd
It will be on for young and old!
Blues in a close one.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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05-14-2023, 06:29 AM
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(05-14-2023, 03:31 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Time for a reality check. A couple of years ago Weitering was bereft of confidence, had a week in the 2s and came back firing.
Out: Weitering Cincotta Acres
In: Boyd, Binns, Kemp
Collingwood aren't exceptionally tall up forward and we need more pace. Young, MGovern, Kemp can handle the talls, Boyd give us pace and kicking accuracy and Binns deserves a go....Acres deserves a rest! Your outs are interesting, Weiters is all at sea, I wonder if they are brave enough to give me a rest? Acres? I can now see why he came so cheap. I can't kelp but think he s an upgrade on Ed only in terms of age. Big body who runs up and down the wing to create a contest but he is bloody awful with the ball in hand.
Is Cowan injured? I think Hollands needs a rest although he is one of the few who tries so hard to get to a contest and try and halve it. His disposal is very good for a young kid with no "body". That left footer in traffic to spot up Owies was sublime (again right in front me so I had the perfect view). The kid is confident that's for sure.
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2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(05-14-2023, 06:29 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Your outs are interesting, Weiters is all at sea, I wonder if they are brave enough to give me a rest? Acres? I can now see why he came so cheap. I can't kelp but think he s an upgrade on Ed only in terms of age. Big body who runs up and down the wing to create a contest but he is bloody awful with the ball in hand.
Is Cowan injured? I think Hollands needs a rest although he is one of the few who tries so hard to get to a contest and try and halve it. His disposal is very good for a young kid with no "body". That left footer in traffic to spot up Owies was sublime (again right in front me so I had the perfect view). The kid is confident that's for sure. Holland reminds me of Lappin.
Scrawny but gives his all.
2024... Moir of the same to come
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I am working on Saturday after having to do a Friday twilight event too so I won't get to see much of this game live. This doesn't particularly worry me as I don't think we are going to get close to the Pies as they are playing a really inspiring brand of footy right now. They are enjoying themselves and are unified in the one pursuit, something we can only dream of right now !!
As far as the club overall goes, I think it's time to put a complete media ban on EVERYONE (and I mean everyone, board, coaches, admins, players, coterie groups etc) at the club until such time as we have delivered some serious results onfield. Naturally Vossy is the exception as he has to do the compulsory post match presser each week.
We are sick & tired of hearing the platitudes and motherhood statements, there is nothing anyone at the club can say now, we have heard it too many times already and we sure as hell are not buying it any more either.
If they don't want to come out with comments from the heart like "no, it wasn't good enough and we have let our supporters down yet again" then stop wasting your time & ours.
Results or STFU !!!!
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05-14-2023, 08:55 AM
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(05-14-2023, 07:54 AM)LordLucifer link Wrote:..............................................
If they don't want to come out with comments from the heart like "no, it wasn't good enough and we have let our supporters down yet again" then stop wasting your time & ours.
Results or STFU !!!!
So if the club came out and said "we let our supporters down" and we can see it comes from the heart (whatever that means) that would be sufficient to placate the angry hordes ? Somehow I doubt it. At any rate, I'd be wary of assuming there's only one audience when such comments are made. There's a number of stakeholders that get addressed in public announcements from the club, be they media, fans, players, marketers, coterie groups, other clubs, the AFL.
If Voss or anyone else said "we let our supporters down yet again" every time we lose, it would carry no weight or believability at all. I much rather they behave professionally rather than angry fanboys.
The chasm that exists between ideas fans have about AFL football, and the actual reality of what being an AFL Club / footballer entails, seems to get bigger and bigger.
I watched the Lyon presser after today's game, and the last question he was asked was about giving a spray at quarter time. Listen to his answer. In fact, watch the whole presser. If you didn't know the score, judging by his comments, you'd think they won. Barely a bad word about his own team.
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