AFL Rd 9 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

[kruddler]

I'm hope we see a bit of a change with Cottrell and Owies coming in this week, we at least know those two will have a crack at whatever is in front of them.

PS; I use to fear the repercussions of dropping Ed, the long term future of Charlie if Ed was dropped or delisted, but not anymore. After listening to Ed talk about the type of as5@h@l#s that it seems some of Charlies alleged suitors are, we've nothing to fear at all! These opponents that want to poach our players have painted us as sh1t, some of them quite actively doing so through unsolicited comment, but it seems compared to them as a club we've come up smelling like roses despite the coverage in the media!

Charlie is signed up until 2029. Not even Tassie can pry him away from us without paying huge at the trade table.

Ed i think is 50-50 to be the sub, (he or Kemp IMO)

[rocky]

As the game draws near, I certainly can't remember a time when we've copped such an intense pile-on from the media. Literally every day since last Friday night. Every outlet has had a crack from every angle. Past coaches, players and now high profile benefactors have had their say. I guess now the only ones left to have a crack are the players themselves and I hope they do but I wont be going to the game. I've seen this movie too many times in the past and the finale has always been so bitterly disappointing. Best of luck to the lads.

[DJC]

As the game draws near, I certainly can't remember a time when we've copped such an intense pile-on from the media. Literally every day since last Friday night. Every outlet has had a crack from every angle. Past coaches, players and now high profile benefactors have had their say. I guess now the only ones left to have a crack are the players themselves and I hope they do but I wont be going to the game. I've seen this movie too many times in the past and the finale has always been so bitterly disappointing. Best of luck to the lads.

Yes, it seems that there’s a concerted campaign to derail our season and influence the AFL’s fixturing.

Despite the professionalism and focus of our players, and AFL players in general, negative media will have an effect.

Paraphrasing the words of Mr Football and Corporal Jones, they don’t like it when we stick it up them, so don’t hold back!

[pinot]

Cotts is a smart hard running player and has improved out of sight past two years will provide plenty of drive with Saad, Doc, Dutchy, Acres

[laj]

As the game draws near, I certainly can't remember a time when we've copped such an intense pile-on from the media. Literally every day since last Friday night. Every outlet has had a crack from every angle. Past coaches, players and now high profile benefactors have had their say. I guess now the only ones left to have a crack are the players themselves and I hope they do but I wont be going to the game. I've seen this movie too many times in the past and the finale has always been so bitterly disappointing. Best of luck to the lads.

Tomorrow would be better to go as this week's media blitz will see them have a good crack. The week after is the issue.

[Blue Moon]

Put Kennedy Cripps and Walsh in the middle, they are our best, Cerra and Hewitt as back ups. Attack the ball with vigour, run hard, kick to your  team mates and take the opportunities when they present. There is talk of playing McKay closer to goal. I have always considered him to be more a Kernahan type player.

[pertz]

Regarding the "pile on" by the media on Carlton why shouldn't they?
We have been ordinary since early in the season (forget the WC game).
If we can't handle the outside noise then we are not focused on what really counts..our performance.

[Blue Moon]

It appears to me the media is finally diagnosing the problem at Carlton. You cannot fix a problem if you don't admit what it is. I have said the problems at Carlton are not the players,  not the coaches and not the administration but the culture at the Club and the attitudes that express themselves on the field as a consequence of this culture. The problem is now being named so tonight is the first chance to start dealing with the problem.

[LP]

It appears to me the media is finally diagnosing the problem at Carlton. You cannot fix a problem if you don't admit what it is. I have said the problems at Carlton are not the players,  not the coaches and not the administration but the culture at the Club and the attitudes that express themselves on the field as a consequence of this culture. The problem is now being named so tonight is the first chance to start dealing with the problem.

Which comes first, the media sledging or the bad culture, if I look impartially it's not clear which is cause and which is effect? It can obviously be either!

I'd assert the culture has greatly improved in recent years, credit where credit is due, and that the Mathieson rant is a throwback which the media is leveraging to pile on the pressure hoping the club will react wildly.

The media know they can prime Mathieson to speak and if suitably egged on they get unrestrained dribble as output.

Anyone who thinks Carlton hasn't improved, or refuses to recognise improvement in many areas, is probably a bigger problem than the actual club! Football and sport in general isn't like an investment, it's not a simple win or loss, sport is a series of milestones that build towards an outcome, like building a house.

[Gointocarlton]

It appears to me the media is finally diagnosing the problem at Carlton. You cannot fix a problem if you don't admit what it is. I have said the problems at Carlton are not the players,  not the coaches and not the administration but the culture at the Club and the attitudes that express themselves on the field as a consequence of this culture. The problem is now being named so tonight is the first chance to start dealing with the problem.

I'm not sure about this, whenever things go pear shaped its always the "mythical" bad culture that gets raised. Can you elaborate on your thoughts about this as I am keen to explore it further if you're keen. I saw (and have seen for a while), fundamental skill errors last week that I think have nothing to do with culture. The group appears to be united, they appear to train hard, their body language looks ok on the field, I feel they can't handle pressure when its applied. How in your opinion does it relate to culture? Not being a smart ass here, am genuinely keen to explore it further as I think it means different things to different  people.