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AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda
#41
(04-23-2023, 08:45 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Time to ask questions of Voss.  The honeymoon is over, I wonder if divorce papers are being drafted
Yep...what were the tactics?...at half back just switch to the other side then come back again while Stkilda got all their players back especially Marshall their only tall. Why were we in slow motion vs a Ross Lyon team who everyone knows how they play.
Charlie and Harry have to take the miracle pack mark every time for us to kick a goal down forward because we had no method...
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#42
(04-23-2023, 08:56 AM)shawny link Wrote:Nope I can’t accept our tall forwards are ok if they get the ball but don’t finish off. It’s BS. Harry has gone backwards. He’s paid to kick goals and for a bloke who won the Coleman medal 18months ago to look so nervous so unsettled with no solid goal kicking routine when doing the most important role in the game it sums us up as a footy club.  Even when one of our players finally develop we have a habit of them not pushing on and tracking upwards but going the other way!

Our coaching has always been suspect but our lack of technique going into the 50 and our general connection or cohesion from our ball movers to the forwards is laughable. It’s actually embarrassing at times.

We botch it up and miss straight forward targets when we have time and then return to the long bomb usually to an outnumber when we are pressured.
When your list consists of last years Brownlow medallist the last 2 years Coleman medalists, 6 AAs, one of the best full backs in the comp you should be in the top half of the comp yet it all falls down with no solid game plan and no forward 50 nous. 8 years into a rebuild you would think by now that box would have been ticked.

No faith we will do any better than last year.
Harry simply can't kick a straight drop punt to save himself, he compensates for that by doing that around the corner kick. Thats fine when we is on the right side of the ground. When he is on the left pocket side, he is virtually useless. So we where does he lead? The left pocket. His in game foot smarts in non existent more often than not. He is a strong contested mark, he snaps around the corner very well (on the right side), we he plays on from outside 50, he is embarrassing to watch.
Charlie and Harry are not working well together, by that I mean in sync.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#43
Talls and midfield had a good game. Ground ball players forward line and defence - couldnt put on score board pressure.
I know alot of blame is going to be put on players that missed shots on goal. But at least they are getting in positions to impact the scoreboard - its the players that are not getting in positions at all is the problem
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#44
We effectively has three Honeys in the forward line today - need 3-5 goals out of this group every game not 1-2
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#45
(04-23-2023, 08:56 AM)shawny link Wrote:Nope I can’t accept our tall forwards are ok if they get the ball but don’t finish off. It’s BS. Harry has gone backwards. He’s paid to kick goals and for a bloke who won the Coleman medal 18months ago to look so nervous so unsettled with no solid goal kicking routine when doing the most important role in the game it sums us up as a footy club.  Even when one of our players finally develop we have a habit of them not pushing on and tracking upwards but going the other way!

Our coaching has always been suspect but our lack of technique going into the 50 and our general connection or cohesion from our ball movers to the forwards is laughable. It’s actually embarrassing at times.

We botch it up and miss straight forward targets when we have time and then return to the long bomb usually to an outnumber when we are pressured.
When your list consists of last years Brownlow medallist the last 2 years Coleman medalists, 6 AAs, one of the best full backs in the comp you should be in the top half of the comp yet it all falls down with no solid game plan and no forward 50 nous. 8 years into a rebuild you would think by now that box would have been ticked.

No faith we will do any better than last year.

Sad but true that ?

We also haven't had a run with our best 22 for years now. Yet other teams repeatedly have healthy lists. Whilst many other issues need addressing, none will pay dividends without a healthy list. Continuously robbing Peter to pay Paul doesn't work.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.
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#46
We switched the ball on 2 occasions when we had even numbers then switched back to the same side and kicked long to worse congestion than was there before.
We just have a lot of stupid players who don't know what to do.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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#47
Need to try Dow and Fogarty in the forward line - these three amigos not very good.
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#48
(04-23-2023, 09:04 AM)pinot link Wrote:Talls and midfield had a good game. Ground ball players forward line and defence - couldnt put on score board pressure.
I know alot of blame is going to be put on players that missed shots on goal. But at least they are getting in positions to impact the scoreboard - its the players that are not getting in positions at all is the problem

Our midfield didn't have a good game.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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#49
(04-23-2023, 09:11 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Our midfield didn't have a good game.

I thought they were terrific today. At their butal best.
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#50
(04-23-2023, 09:08 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Sad but true that ?

We also haven't had a run with our best 22 for years now. Yet other teams repeatedly have healthy lists. Whilst many other issues need addressing, none will pay dividends without a healthy list. Continuously robbing Peter to pay Paul doesn't work.
Agree but we turn to a turd real fast when we lose key soldiers. Other teams like Essendon Saints pies etc seem to alter things they change their gameplan and even with players out those teams are still hard to beat.

We rely on individual brilliance with key players having massive games and that getting us over the line rather than an even spread who play smart to a style that gets the job done.

We have no system and no brand despite having a very strong list imo.

When was the last strong win without big games from our stars?
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