AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

[WASurfer]

Pinot.....surely that means Dow's papers are stamped now....at least that's how he'd be seeing it I reckon.

[madbluboy]

Dow and Fogarty not even making it in the squad.

I feel for Dow, he can't do any more and our midfield couldn't do any worse.

[pinot]

Interchange from:
Matthew Kennedy (first game back from injury last week - but was very poor)
Zac Fisher (one decent game in five is a dropping)
Josh Honey (showed no VFL form to get a game)
Lochie O'Brien (seriously underwhelming in all the minutes he has played no reason to persist)
Brodie Kemp  (showing good form, select)
Tom De Koning (all over the shop)
Alex Cincotta  (showing good form, select)
Lachie Plowman (showing good form, sub at best)

[ElwoodBlues1]

Dow and Fogarty not even making it in the squad.

Agree....VFL Form doesnt mean much it seems, its just where you sit in the pecking order of popularity and those two dont appear popular.

[Baggers]

Again with the conservatism. Keep on going with what you feel safe with and you'll keep getting what you've always gotten. :

I hope someone is having some good words with Dow... how much rejection can the kid handle?

[shawny]

Agree....VFL Form doesnt mean much it seems, its just where you sit in the pecking order of popularity and those two dont appear popular.

So why not move them on and open up 2 list spots in last years off season. Nope lets keep them and not play them regardless how well there 2nds form is. Then give them away for nothing in this years off season. 

Dumb club

[Mav]

For all we know, Dow was told at the end of last year that he’d be stuck in the VFL. Harry Madden was told he’d play reserves if he continued to play and after playing several reserve games he retired. But Dow is well-paid for a VFL player, so he had little reason to walk away.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Again with the conservatism. Keep on going with what you feel safe with and you'll keep getting what you've always gotten. :

I hope someone is having some good words with Dow... how much rejection can the kid handle?

Think he would be real disappointed after telling the club he wanted to stay and fight for his position and has probably been the most consistent of all the VFL players this season. Only think I can think of is he isnt reaching Key Indicators in terms of his defensive work because he has been getting decent numbers in most other areas.

[Gointocarlton]

https://youtu.be/qYWHKJflfoY

can we hire this guy?

[DJC]

Back to the tried and failed with LOB.......Kemp and McGovern play the same position as does Plowman.
On the plus side Cincotta has earned his promotion.

Kemp and McGovern don’t play the same position although Kemp could do McGovern’s role.  Almost every game Kemp has played has been as a KPD, albeit a little undersized but still able to match it with his larger opponent.

Kemp also has the foot speed and the step to break the lines and he could well be in line for the Docherty or Saad roles.

Similarly, Plowman doesn’t play the same role is McGovern (as was demonstrated last week) or Kemp.  Plow is your solid 3rd tall who tends to get caught out when his teammates over commit.

With Cincotta (who has a toolkit that’s closer to what the Docherty/Saad roles require), we have gone from six defenders and a midfielder to eight defenders.  I’m not confident that McGovern will run out but, if he does, one of our defenders will have a different role.

I would have preferred to see Fogarty among the ins but O’Brien’s ability to run harder for longer must have been valued more.

I suspect that a few players are on their last chance and others have something to prove. The team selection suggests that our coaching group has a plan to stymie Lyon’s reliance on sticking to the boundary.

Time will tell but Go Blues!