AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

[Gointocarlton]

Do tell...

Nothing has changed, form and workmate is down.

[LoveNavy]

Nothing has changed, form and workmate is down.

Ah, got it. I thought I'd missed something that changed ?
Geez wouldn't it be good to have some stability in the middle?

[Gointocarlton]

The brutal bit was our big mids according to Hardwick......Hewett, Kennedy and Cripps......whats changed? , Hewett looks like he is playing with his hand still injured and was rushed back too early. Kennedy got injured again and looked short of a gallop and when Cripps has a down game we really struggle especially when his opponent is someone decent and spends all game on their own doing what they like.
You add Pittonet injured and TDK down on form and its our main attack weapon the midfield that let us down vs the Crows.
Pace...we played a fast brand when on song rather than having a lot of individual leg speed, players hit targets, run to position well
and you get a good linkup to Charlie and Harry.

Exaclty, we're not slower or less hard, we just aren't doing fundamentals right, down on confidence and form and played some tough opposition. Doc AND Gov out hurt structure alot, didnt do very well at the selection table either. As I said, just a horrible performance right across the board.

[BluePhantom]

Exaclty, we're not slower or less hard, we just aren't doing fundamentals right, down on confidence and form and played some tough opposition. Doc AND Gov out hurt structure alot, didnt do very well at the selection table either. As I said, just a horrible performance right across the board.

How bloody often does this comment rear it's ugly head??????

[Baggers]

Baggers we were 8-3 at the bye last year, were labelled fast and brutal for our toughness. Whats changed? I can answer it if you want.

Couldn't agree more... but then, after the bye, not so much. We started this year much like we finished last year with the exception -- until Thursday night -- we were winning - just.

Love to know what you believe the reasons are, old son. Personally, I see injuries, inconsistency in games and out of form or just not up to it blokes taking the field. Our safe and conservative approach at the selection table also contributes to the issues.

[Gointocarlton]

Couldn't agree more... but then, after the bye, not so much. We started this year much like we finished last year with the exception -- until Thursday night -- we were winning - just.

Love to know what you believe the reasons are, old son. Personally, I see injuries, inconsistency in games and out of form or just not up to it blokes taking the field. Our safe and conservative approach at the selection table also contributes to the issues.

Baggers I can't pin point any one thing, there are multiple factors at play here and the ones you mention are certainly some.
Injuries: There are some on our injury list that just aren't worth worrying about or factoring in simply because they are never a factor because they never ever seem to play. Doc and Gov out hurt us for sure, the selection committee has a lot to answer for with respect to the replacements bought in. I refuse to single out players from Thursday night's catastrophe but I will say Kemp, Cincotta and one of Dow/Fogarty should have played. In other words, I dont think the correct replacements played. Would they have made a difference on Thurs? No one knows really but we would have known more today. I didn't like the idea of rotating George or Cerra to the half backline when you have other replacements and those 2 could have remained at the coalface where they belong. Where did we get smashed the most on Thurs? At the coal face especially in the first qtr.

I do think there is an element of pacing themselves. What I mean by that is the our first half of the year last year was "all in", pedal to the metal to the bye. After that we dropped off severely, maybe because the guys looked thrashed. Perhaps, there is a concerted effort this year to better manage their loads (at training and in game) to minimise the effects of injuries.

I tend to think our game style may have been tinkered with a little and perhaps the blokes are still coming to grips with it. We are definitely not doing to the basics right, whether that be errant kicks or handballs, spilling easy marks, ineffective tackles (this one is a big problem for mine) or simply trying to be too cute (how many overhead backwards handballs did we do and mess up the other night). We also seem to be selecting the wrong options far too often, like giving off to say a left footer who only has his right side to work with.

All this can be fixed (I think), it's just a question of how much damage did that loss do between the ears of our players and coaches. Now I have seen us rectify structural problems and tidy up ball movement within games this year, I'd like to think (or hope) we can do it in 9 or 10 days this time. Finals aren't made or won in March, April or May.

[madbluboy]

Couldn't agree more... but then, after the bye, not so much. We started this year much like we finished last year with the exception -- until Thursday night -- we were winning - just.

Love to know what you believe the reasons are, old son. Personally, I see injuries, inconsistency in games and out of form or just not up to it blokes taking the field. Our safe and conservative approach at the selection table also contributes to the issues.

We were 4-1 with a percentage of 102.6 after 5 rounds last year.

[madbluboy]

We lost to the hapless Suns.

[LP]

In regards to 2022, you have to look at the teams we did not play until beyond Rnd 10 or so, and we did not play Geelong or Melbourne until after Rnd 18!

[Milhanna13]

As per momentum, I thought Motlop was monstered in the 1st q, he could’ve had 3 frees early but nada…

It was their tactic all over the ground, in the 1st quarter - hold at every stoppage, hold before the ball arrives, and see if the umpires have the guts to pay frees in front of that crowd.....  we know the answer to that...