Practice Match: Blues v Pies, Fri 24 Feb

[DJC]

Glenn MacFarlane from the HS doing his player reviews:
'Jack Silvagni - The son-of-a-gun was solid as the back-up ruck to TDK, will be interesting to see what happens when Pittonet returns to full health.' 
Thought Mirkov was the backup ruckman!!! JSOS was predominantly a forward??  Did I get that wrong??

Mirkov and De Koning were rarely on the ground together and Jack competed in quite a few ruck contests around the ground.  However, Jack was mainly used as a tall forward, except for the latter part of the last quarter when he was an extra man in defence - Vossy wasn't going to let the Pies steal another win.

[LoveNavy]

Mirkov and De Koning were rarely on the ground together and Jack competed in quite a few ruck contests around the ground.  However, Jack was mainly used as a tall forward, except for the latter part of the last quarter when he was an extra man in defence - Vossy wasn't going to let the Pies steal another win.

Jack of all trades. I value his versatility.  Coupled with his nous and navy heart, he's such an asset.

[Gointocarlton]

I think others noticed how many of our forward entries were high... on a number of occasions it appeared that blokes paused and intentionally launched it high, perhaps a conscious effort to maximise height and limit the need for small forward input seeing how we were missing a couple of our prime small forwards. Just a thought.

As one of the commentators said, defenders love it when its kicked in high like that. Gives the talls time to get across in numbers and either kill it or intercept. Just a useless tactic for mine:
- spoils the often hard work up the ground to get into the position to go going inside 50.
- risk of injury to your Rolls Royces by getting crunched in packs.
More low and precise entry is the go, our Rollers have more than enough skill and speed to make position to receive it, we have the mids now who can do precision.

[ElwoodBlues1]

As one of the commentators said, defenders love it when its kicked in high like that. Gives the talls time to get across in numbers and either kill it or intercept. Just a useless tactic for mine:
- spoils the often hard work up the ground to get into the position to go going inside 50.
- risk of injury to your Rolls Royces by getting crunched in packs.
More low and precise entry is the go, our Rollers have more than enough skill and speed to make position to receive it, we have the mids now who can do precision.

Yep, fully agree, bombing the ball usually happens when there is no movement in your forward line and your mids are under pressure and just slamming the ball on the boot. It was a scrappy first hitout and neither team reached any great level in terms of method imho which is too be expected. Id expect to see more clean entries and delivery in the practice games proper and we will get a better idea if anything has changed game plan wise.
In the good old days of premiership glories we never won any pre season games and looked like the players were still on Mad Monday duty but come round 1 we were ready to go and usually very sharp so I wouldnt get too stuck on pre season game form and would rather see us go easy in the pre season games to protect our Rollers but have a full list to choose from come round 1.

[Milhanna13]

Did anyone know that Collingwood trained for the last 3 minute "scenarios" last year???  Not sure that the commentators mentioned it enough - it was only about every 2nd sentence. 

[LP]

Did anyone know that Collingwood trained for the last 3 minute "scenarios" last year???  Not sure that the commentators mentioned it enough - it was only about every 2nd sentence.

The problem with that scenario is that you have to be close to make it work 50/50.

Sure I get the ideology, for the Filth to win more than it's fair share of crap shoots. But last season and the season before we've had a bit of a habit of letting 6 or 7 goal leads slip in multiple games, if we stop that then the last 3 minutes become largely irrelevant, so for me our problem isn't the last 3 minutes but the 25 minutes before.

Really, if the Filth rely on that strategy, in the long term they will become the next Ninthmond which is a death by a thousand cuts. I don't want that for Carlton, I want the old Carlton, the one that was game over in the 3rd!

As much as I hate Dangerfield's Handbaggers, and despise the whinging whining coach, I love the way they manage and control the game and there are lessons to be learned from that clinical professionalism. In last years GF, Sindney were like bugs stuck in a river of molasses while trying to swim upstream.

[Gointocarlton]

Did anyone know that Collingwood trained for the last 3 minute "scenarios" last year???  Not sure that the commentators mentioned it enough - it was only about every 2nd sentence. 

Nathan Buckley was on SEN the other morning talking about the Super Bowl and how well the NFL teams control the clock. They train it to perfection and everyone knows their role in those scenarios. He went to say they we can't control the clock as well in AFL because our game is all about transition. When you take a mark, you have seconds before you need to move it on, you get a free, same thing seconds and you need to move it on.
I think we were extremely poor last year in those games where we lost it in the end during the final minutes. It was as if we never trained it, even basics, around what we would do in the final minutes to hold a slender lead or pinch a game that was in the balance. In fact, we even repeated the same mistakes of the weeks before. I truly hope we have learnt from that and have worked on some basic scenario train because to have repeat of what happened in the last two games of 2022 would be absolutely gut wrenching.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Collingwood are very fit and mobile, what they lack in star power they make up for in that ability to run out games after making it tight all the way through games playing blue collar rebound football.
Apart from Cox they dont have too many lumbering stiffs, run a small mobile backline and have that bits and pieces forward setup with odd type players who have that ability to work as individuals but also link up when required.
Its working with what you have and Macrae's problem will be sustaining and improving that brand in 2023 as other teams work them out. Most wont know what I am talking about with the following but a similar analogy is what has happened in the NBL this year with the Cairns Taipans who are the team I follow, they are a mixture of odd type players who have been cellar dwellers for years but this season have a left field thinking coach in Adam Forde who has them playing this high octane rebound run the floor, shoot plenty of threes type game coupled with a very in your face defensive setup. They have gone from nearly last to top 4 and have just had their season ended but played very well in the finals even after losing key players.
Just shows what a good coach can do but the test is sustaining and making improvement year on end and this where I think Collingwood and Macrae will be tested and I have them slipping a bit...

[Gointocarlton]

Collingwood are very fit and mobile, what they lack in star power they make up for in that ability to run out games after making it tight all the way through games playing blue collar rebound football.
Apart from Cox they dont have too many lumbering stiffs, run a small mobile backline and have that bits and pieces forward setup with odd type players who have that ability to work as individuals but also link up when required.
Its working with what you have and Macrae's problem will be sustaining and improving that brand in 2023 as other teams work them out. Most wont know what I am talking about with the following but a similar analogy is what has happened in the NBL this year with the Cairns Taipans who are the team I follow, they are a mixture of odd type players who have been cellar dwellers for years but this season have a left field thinking coach in Adam Forde who has them playing this high octane rebound run the floor, shoot plenty of threes type game coupled with a very in your face defensive setup. They have gone from nearly last to top 4 and have just had their season ended but played very well in the finals even after losing key players.
Just shows what a good coach can do but the test is sustaining and making improvement year on end and this where I think Collingwood and Macrae will be tested and I have them slipping a bit...

If you heard C Scott the other day, he talked about needing to bring something new this year despite winning a premiership last year. He suggested that if they do the same as last year, they are gone. Thats a good coach, just won a flag and not resting on his laurels. Every year, not matter where you finish, you need to bring something new, you know what they say about doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result.

[ElwoodBlues1]

If you heard C Scott the other day, he talked about needing to bring something new this year despite winning a premiership last year. He suggested that if they do the same as last year, they are gone. Thats a good coach, just won a flag and not resting on his laurels. Every year, not matter where you finish, you need to bring something new, you know what they say about doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result.

Fully agree and one reservation about us I have is what are we bringing thats new this season, players?/ inventive gameplan? .....Voss when coaching at Brisbane began well and then it was downhill every year after that.