Ruck & Roll (Pittonet VS De Koning VS Mirkov)

[LP]

Id play them both.

5 on the interchange this year isn't it?

It will be interesting to see how clubs make use the new rules, and I suspect in our case you are correct to make use of it to bolster ruck options.

But I suspect fans will be a bit disappointed, because it will change or diminish the role of some fan favourites.

[pinot]

Its hard to find young rucks that can take speccies and kick goals, his tackle numbers are pretty good. He is very good at hitouts to advantage when he wins the ruck contest just doesn't win enough of them yet - a seasoned hardened body will see him win more than lose due to his raw athletic ability. 203cm 23 year old would like us to persist with him.

[DJC]

Just putting it out there; our bloke is Mirkov with an "I".

Markov is a Collingwood rookie.

[kruddler]

Id play them both.

5 on the interchange this year isn't it?

In theory, thats easy to say.

Pick your best 22, include 2 rucks and you'll find that you get a bit too top heavy and/or there will be deserving '3rd tall' types who miss out - ie Silvagni, McGovern, Marchbank...which exposes us should one of our Key forwards or key backs get injured.

[shawny]

Its hard to find young rucks that can take speccies and kick goals, his tackle numbers are pretty good. He is very good at hitouts to advantage when he wins the ruck contest just doesn't win enough of them yet - a seasoned hardened body will see him win more than lose due to his raw athletic ability. 203cm 23 year old would like us to persist with him.

Agree - he would be a wanted commodity on the trade market and while Pit is serviceable I doubt he would be the starting ruck in many other sides (if any) so disagree in trading TDK - we drafted the kid, done the ground work and still needing the position he is playing for filled and now we let a team like Geelong swoop in and make him a real star.

The kid needs more time but he shows more than most for a ruck man at 23 - has the writing on the wall that this could easily be a trade we rue in 2-3 years.

If he wants the big dollars now then we have no option but to drive a hard bargain and trade but my point is first we need to do what we can to retain him.

[pinot]

Agree - he would be a wanted commodity on the trade market and while Pit is serviceable I doubt he would be the starting ruck in many other sides (if any) so disagree in trading TDK - we drafted the kid, done the ground work and still needing the position he is playing for filled and now we let a team like Geelong swoop in and make him a real star.

The kid needs more time but he shows more than most for a ruck man at 23 - has the writing on the wall that this could easily be a trade we rue in 2-3 years.

If he wants the big dollars now then we have no option but to drive a hard bargain and trade but my point is first we need to do what we can to retain him.

If we need to go over the cap next year and under year after then we need to do it with Gov coming out of contract I have my preference on who to keep even if others will disagree.

[Thryleon]

In theory, thats easy to say.

Pick your best 22, include 2 rucks and you'll find that you get a bit too top heavy and/or there will be deserving '3rd tall' types who miss out - ie Silvagni, McGovern, Marchbank...which exposes us should one of our Key forwards or key backs get injured.

With 5 on the bench, I'd definitely play both.  Tdk is a forward that can ruck well rather than a ruck that plays forward well.

Im not worried about jsos and mcgovern marchbank.  All 3 are role players for us and Jack is first cab off that rank as spiritual leader.  Mcgovern second and marchbank is a bit of a wildcard who i might think about trying in Newman's role.

[kruddler]

With 5 on the bench, I'd definitely play both.  Tdk is a forward that can ruck well rather than a ruck that plays forward well.

Im not worried about jsos and mcgovern marchbank.  All 3 are role players for us and Jack is first cab off that rank as spiritual leader.  Mcgovern second and marchbank is a bit of a wildcard who i might think about trying in Newman's role.

It's not 5 on the bench though.
It's 4 and 1 break glass in case of emergency.

You might not be worried about those I mentioned, but pick your best 22 in an actual side and you'll see its unbalanced if you included all of them. If you then look to exclude one, the most obvious one is a 2nd ruck. Since tdk is a forward/ruck, it's him.

We tried playing woth pitto, tdk, Harry and Charlie and we had to leave out Jack....and ended up being too tall with no heart.
I don't need to learn that lesson a 2nd time.

[LP]

We tried playing woth pitto, tdk, Harry and Charlie and we had to leave out Jack....and ended up being too tall with no heart.
I don't need to learn that lesson a 2nd time.

And so it starts for season 2023, the well wishes, mercy pleas and begging.

AFL is a brutal business!

As BigH, Charlie, TDK, Young and Kemp mature, selections are no longer so certain. What we might want as fans, and what becomes reality at the MC, might not converge!

AFL is a cold and brutal business!

I notice in pre-season SoJ has again been given so stoppage time, I really, really, hope, the MC see him as more than a 3rd tall or a ruck relief, because if fans think he's getting a gig based on that things might not be so rosy!

[Thryleon]

Te konings mark then is why he and pittonet should both be playing.