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(10-31-2022, 06:20 AM)Lods link Wrote:I think it's a fair question to ask Gina if she believes in the same things her father said.
I'd also be more than willing to apolgise for my children's behaviour up to a point where they are of an age that they can understand right from wrong and become reponsible for their own actions.
We can feel a responsibity for those close to us if our actions facilitated their wrong doings or we failed to intervene when we could have.
But I just don't belive we are responsible in any way for the actions of our ancestors.
We have no control over those deeds or actions...and in many cases our own beliefs may conflict sharply with theirs.
We can be sorry that things they were responsible for occurred...but we shouldn't bear the guilt.
It's too complex a situation because in our own ancestry there would have been many 'victims' of racism and abuse.
Personally I would try and avoid the word "guilt." It seems to me a word used in turbo mode by the right to wedge and cause trouble. I think a better word is "awareness." Simply having some awareness that social, racial, political and other structures privilege certain groups over others, and when you combine that with even a modicum of decency and empathy (and you're one of the privileged), you try and do your bit to equalise the imbalance. Even if "your bit" is something trivial like speaking up on a football forum.
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(10-31-2022, 05:54 AM)blueday link Wrote:Netball Australia are broke, can't play their players and now we are going to try and build a case that a sponsor is going to get a return on an investment. Hope its not one of your family members that waits in a tent outside a hospital to be admitted to emergency, next time so we can fund netball!
Its not a simple question of $15m to netball or 5 hospital beds, theres a bigger picture of encouraging people to have healthy active lifestyles, because that reduces chronic health problems from existing, let along clogging up the hospitals.
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(10-31-2022, 05:37 AM)DJC link Wrote:I'm not sure that Newman’s blackface skit could be called comedy. He was attempting to deride Nicky Winmar for his anti-racist activism and it wasn’t humorous at all. Not that humour excuses racist stereotyping and parodying, whether it’s done by Magda, Newman, Alice Kunek or Justin Trudeau.
Actually Winmar was supposed to be on the show and didn't show up. Throughout the show Sam kept asking Eddie is he here yet with the longer the show went the less likely he was going to turn up. At the last break Newman came out in blackface and said "I'm here bla bla"
Following week he had Winmar's guernsey which was a bulldogs one from memory and he apologised directly to him for any offence and that he wish he had the jumper last week and it wouldn't have happened.
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(10-31-2022, 06:59 AM)northernblue date Wrote:Its not a simple question of $15m to netball or 5 hospital beds, theres a bigger picture of encouraging people to have healthy active lifestyles, because that reduces chronic health problems from existing, let along clogging up the hospitals. Yes, I'm not opposed to the investment for this very reason, but I'm not going to imagine that it is 100% altruistic either, sorry for my cynicism. 
Anything that encourages kids to get into activity and off the screens must be a good thing, I write banging away at a keyboard! : 
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My perception is that Newman is THE most insincere person to walk the planet until Trump came along.
Any apology made by him is seen in that light, imho.
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(10-31-2022, 08:06 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, I'm not opposed to the investment for this very reason, but I'm not going to imagine that it is 100% altruistic either, sorry for my cynicism.
Anything that encourages kids to get into activity and off the screens must be a good thing, I write banging away at a keyboard! :
Im not so fussed about the screens as such, but the obesity etc.
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(10-31-2022, 08:08 AM)northernblue date Wrote:My perception is that Newman is THE most insincere person to walk the planet until Trump came along.
Any apology made by him is seen in that light, imho. I think it's mostly a character he plays, in real life I've seen him behave quite the opposite.
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(10-31-2022, 08:09 AM)northernblue date Wrote:Im not so fussed about the screens as such, but the obesity etc. True, but thin and inactive isn't necessarily healthy either, sport and other physical activity brings more than just physical health.
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(10-31-2022, 08:09 AM)LP link Wrote:I think it's mostly a character he plays, in real life I've seen him behave quite the opposite. And thats quite possible, but i still have my perceptions of him, which is almost racist in itself...
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