AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

[ElwoodBlues1]

You should probably redirect that anger to the recruiters.

All of those players exhibited injuries at their previous club. We recruited perennially injured players, not turned them into them.

Yep, fully agree...you look at the history of all those players plus add McGovern and they miss a lot of games during the season on average so you never have continuity in the team for too long.
Its down to the Recruiters as you say and we cant be recruiting those types anymore as its not sustainable..

[kruddler]

Yep, fully agree...you look at the history of all those players plus add McGovern and they miss a lot of games during the season on average so you never have continuity in the team for too long.
Its down to the Recruiters as you say and we cant be recruiting those types anymore as its not sustainable..

At the time, we had cash to spend and limited players wanting to come to us. So we took what we could get. All players are indeed talented. Just not consistently perform at AFL level, usually through injury.
So i don't begrudge the recruiters because at the time it was what we had to do.

However, as you say, we can't be recruiting those types.....ANYMORE.

Now we don't have to recruit injured players. Players will want to come to us and we can be more picky with who we chase.
Regardless of what happens in the last few rounds (and finals?) this is a new era of the Carlton Football Club and we need readjust how we do things....and recruiting injured players needs to stop.

[pinot]

Durdin was worst on ground before he got injured.

I dont like it how we are rushing Durdin - he is at least 2 years away. I like his determination and pressure acts but that isnt enough for AFL football. Motlop is the only small forward that can actually play like a small forward and even he is two years away.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Plowman should never play while stocker is on the list. Simply as that. Plowmans c0ckups that are always so costly and every loss we have that he plays in is littered with them. Surely we are past playing this bloke?

As our mate Cornes showed on the footy show we had several lame attempts. The usual culprits in Plowman, LOB and setterfield and Motlop were shown several times.

I will give Motlop an out as he is still learning but Setterfield has had enough chances and is a one paced no urgency 2nsa player and is cooked imo and while LOBs kicking has improved and is a nice skill is this the bloke you want playing a high pressure hard hitting final? He will be found out imo and I think none of the 4 players mentioned above can play IF we make finals.

We have a few players who lose interest in the hot contest and struggle to stick tackles when the opposition stronger blokes flex their muscles, Walker knows he can have his way physically with us and Fogarty his heir in waiting also learned a few of our blokes will jump out the road if you look menacing enough and have enough momentum.
Setterfield started ok but faded badly and as River Rat suggested his kicking under pressure falls away badly, LOB got caught on the end of some play where he had bigger players run into him and struggled to control them and Plowman was in lala land with his disposal especially and had some diabolical turnovers.
Motlop I dont mind as the kid does some good stuff and isnt scared plus will come to teammates assistance......same with Owies who will also fly the flag, Harry on the other hand is about as physical as a wet lettuce leaf and needs a can of whoop arse before the game to fire him up.

[pinot]

Half backs and half forwards broke down last night - the biggest cardinal sin was not providing numbers around the ball. We got completely out played.... Adelaide were far hungrier and methodical with the numbers to the contest and then the spread.

[Baggers]

Half backs and half forwards broke down last night - the biggest cardinal sin was not providing numbers around the ball. We got completely out played.... Adelaide were far hungrier and methodical with the numbers to the contest and then the spread.

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[ElwoodBlues1]

Half backs and half forwards broke down last night - the biggest cardinal sin was not providing numbers around the ball. We got completely out played.... Adelaide were far hungrier and methodical with the numbers to the contest and then the spread.

Voss didnt make enough moves and then ran out of chess pieces when we had Durdin, Kennedy and Newman injured....just dont know why he left Saad loose on Keays....you see Saad chasing the ball and not manning Keays up and the latter on his own goalside with no opponent and when you have dummies like Plowman turning it over you get burnt.
Cant remember who kicked the ball that McAdam put one arm to steal but you cant expect to win games when you make basic kicking errors in the backline, that was Carlton from the Bolton/Teague era stuff where we used to give away 5 goals in 5 minutes.
Adelaide were smart, they go to Dawson nearly every time to bring the ball out of defense but we were asleep and never manned him up so to force some of their other spuds to kick the ball.
I'd be playing Kemp over Plowman as I cant see Plowman improving and he is just too inconsistent with how he makes decisions and uses the ball..

[madbluboy]

I dont like it how we are rushing Durdin - he is at least 2 years away. I like his determination and pressure acts but that isnt enough for AFL football. Motlop is the only small forward that can actually play like a small forward and even he is two years away.

I like Durdin and Motlop, they are going to be fine players.

[kruddler]

Voss didnt make enough moves and then ran out of chess pieces when we had Durdin, Kennedy and Newman injured....just dont know why he left Saad loose on Keays....you see Saad chasing the ball and not manning Keays up and the latter on his own goalside with no opponent and when you have dummies like Plowman turning it over you get burnt.
Cant remember who kicked the ball that McAdam put one arm to steal but you cant expect to win games when you make basic kicking errors in the backline, that was Carlton from the Bolton/Teague era stuff where we used to give away 5 goals in 5 minutes.
Adelaide were smart, they go to Dawson nearly every time to bring the ball out of defense but we were asleep and never manned him up so to force some of their other spuds to kick the ball.
I'd be playing Kemp over Plowman as I cant see Plowman improving and he is just too inconsistent with how he makes decisions and uses the ball..

re mcadam incident.
pretty sure that was Gov.

[ElwoodBlues1]

re mcadam incident.
pretty sure that was Gov.

You are correct....think he redeemed himself with a pass to Cottrell for a goal not long after but the McAdam turnover was crucial at that stage.