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07-29-2022, 02:26 AM
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One of the big things I have noticed about this season under Voss is that players are given roles and the expectations are set for those roles and they are competing with others on the list for the team spots available for each role. Wings, small forwards, mid/tall backs, inside mids etc. They aren't playing players in the positions they aren't slated for, mids played as forwards, for example, like in previous years. That's one of the reasons I can see why Dow isn't getting a game. JSOS is a product of this, he is a tall forward competing with Charlie, McKay and now TDK, they just can't fit them all in the side and they won't play them out of position, unless by absolute necessity, (SOS rucking or Kemp as a tall back). Even if you categorise JSOS as a 3rd tall forward there is still only one place in the side for that position and they have gone with TDK this week.
I reckon their formula is
7 Backs, 2 tall 5 mix of lockdown/running/Intercept
3 Wings
7 Forwards 3 tall 4 small/Medium (Sometimes one of these will be a mid coming of Half Forwrd like Walsh has been doing)
1 Ruck (plus Backup from tall Fwd)
4 Mids (Mostly inside mids with run coming from wingers)
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As Mad indicated, we had all those talls in Round 1 against Richmond....AND played Silvagni and Martin. Silvagni was going at better a goal a game in those first half a dozen rounds until Pittonet went down. I still think he could come in and play in place of one of the smalls....probably Motlop. Silvagni might not be as quick but reckon his forward half pressure chasing and tackling is up there with anyone else in the F50.
It's hard to see where Martin now squeezes his way back into the side.
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SOJ is a forward pocket that is capable of providing a lot of link between the forwards and the back half of the ground.
He can pinch hit key forward, and can also play as a midfielder.
He is a very rounded individual and plays like his Grandfather and has a team oriented ethos and is only getting a chop out this week, because finals arent won in July.
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(07-29-2022, 02:42 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:As Mad indicated, we had all those talls in Round 1 against Richmond....AND played Silvagni and Martin. Silvagni was going at better a goal a game in those first half a dozen rounds until Pittonet went down. I still think he could come in and play in place of one of the smalls....probably Motlop. Silvagni might not be as quick but reckon his forward half pressure chasing and tackling is up there with anyone else in the F50.
It's hard to see where Martin now squeezes his way back into the side. We had the 5 talls, (Pitto, TDK, Charlie,Harry, JSOS) for the first 3 rounds of the season, not since. I just think with TDK's development since Pitto went down has meant they think 4 talls are enough and we are better off playing an extra small, hence Durds, Owies, Motlop play
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Love to see how blue chip forwards Harry and Charlie would be going now if they were getting smashed in the ruck for half a season. I suspect based on their fragile history they wouldn't be going.
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(07-29-2022, 03:14 AM)NudeNut date Wrote:We had the 5 talls, (Pitto, TDK, Charlie,Harry, JSOS) for the first 3 rounds of the season, not since. I just think with TDK's development since Pitto went down has meant they think 4 talls are enough and we are better off playing an extra small, hence Durds, Owies, Motlop play The fan reaction is funny, to me this is our MC / coaching panel addressing the issues we saw earlier in the season when we were losing big leads due to a lack of run.
Fans actually called for this change, now they have got it they are complaining!
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(07-29-2022, 03:18 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:Love to see how blue chip forwards Harry and Charlie would be going now if they were getting smashed in the ruck for half a season. I suspect based on their fragile history they wouldn't be going. BigH has been rucking the F50 stoppages for a few weeks now.
How is smashing a Coleman medallist or a potential Coleman medallist a solution to your SoJ problems?
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(07-29-2022, 03:18 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Love to see how blue chip forwards Harry and Charlie would be going now if they were getting smashed in the ruck for half a season. I suspect based on their fragile history they wouldn't be going.
You may well be right, he has done what he had to do for the team and is probably suffering a bit for it now. Love the bloke and hope he gets back.
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(07-29-2022, 03:20 AM)LP link Wrote:BigH has been rucking the F50 stoppages for a few weeks now.
How is smashing a Coleman medallist or a potential Coleman medallist a solution to your SoJ problems?
I don't have any problems with Jack. He plays his position fine, ruck not so much but he gave it his all. If only we had a 200cm plus forward who could have given TDK a chop out.
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(07-29-2022, 03:20 AM)LP link Wrote:BigH has been rucking the F50 stoppages for a few weeks now.
How is smashing a Coleman medallist or a potential Coleman medallist a solution to your SoJ problems? Harry is fairly hopeless in the ruck, we had Jack bodying up Pruess and holding his own. Unless Jack is injured or just stuffed it's a weird decision for supporters to get their head around. If Jacks problem is pace then I don't see how Pittonet is the fix...
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