AFL Rd 19 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

[ElwoodBlues1]

btw., Will we appeal the Hayes ban, or do we just dismiss it as just another MRO mystery?

In the video replay it appears to me like Hayes makes a perfectly legal tackle, and Menegola gets injured because he throws out his arms and twists his body looking for a holding the man free!

As I said previously, lack of care dumping him and you have to show some degree of care when you tackle and throw players to the ground. It was all in one motion so not deliberate but still worth a week imho.

[tonyo]

I suspect the only change might be SoJ or TDK out, and Pitto in.

I'm sure I'll get push back from the Silvagni boosters, but SoJ has some waning form and I can't see us retaining all three of SoJ, TDK and Pitto at the expense of a lot of run and carry.

With Pitto back, SOJ can concentrate on being the half forward he should be, instead of being smashed in the ruck for 30% of the game.

Our half-forward line is a chink atm - we have little or no height 70m out from goal unless Charlie or Harry venture up that far, hence the reason we get dominated in the air by intercepting half-backs.  With TDK able to spend more time there, and SOJ there permanently, this might improve quite a bit.

[LP]

As I said previously, lack of care dumping him and you have to show some degree of care when you tackle and throw players to the ground. It was all in one motion so not deliberate but still worth a week imho.

[member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member] How is what Menegola did different from ducking your head to win a free?

When the tackled player stages does he have some responsibility for his own welfware?

[Pratty]

The 2 weeks for Hayes' tackle is mind boggling.

[Pratty]

On the wing positions - do we look at deploying Fisher and Walsh to the two wing spots? Cerra could rotate through also. Perhaps once Williams is back, we could push a half-back flanker up onto a wing. Thinking one of Newman, Doch, Saad, Williams.

[RiverRat]

Two supposedly easier games followed by three tougher ones in the run home.

Cripps was quiet for the first 3 terms against WC before imposing himself in the final term and was very subdued (or beaten) against the pussies - perhaps he is carrying a niggle or needs a rest after his explosive start to the season.

Here's an idea that is probably too much out of left field - IF he is carrying a niggle , which would benefit from being rested (or managed) for one of the next two games, maybe he could be named as the substitute - to break glass in case of emergency because we can't afford to lose one of the supposedly easier games.

As Dow seems to be considered as only a centre square midfielder, that would also give him a chance to show what he's got.

[WASurfer]

Club not challenging the Hayes suspension so he's a definite out.

O'Brien wasn't named in the best in the VFL on the club website so maybe Setterfield is a straight swap for Hayes? I'm not a big fan of Setterfield or what's he's achieved but seems a likely inclusion?

Pittonet definitely in for mine. Will allow TDK to spend more time forward and allow Silvagni to play that pressure forward role he plays so well. He was going at a goal a game or more in those first half a dozen weeks before Pittonet went down injured.

Charlie/Harry and TDK spending time forward will stretch GWS without Davis.

Toby Greene, as always, is the worrying match up so maybe Stocker gets first crack at him?

Would love McGovern back but with his injury history, another week in the VFL seems likely.

[townsendcalling]

O'Brien only played part of a game and pick up disposals at will. He'll be back.  Is it a coincidence that Cripps played his best footy when Pittonet was in the team??  See Pittonet back in the team and watch Cripps fire up again.

[Thryleon]

I suspect the only change might be SoJ or TDK out, and Pitto in.

I'm sure I'll get push back from the Silvagni boosters, but SoJ has some waning form and I can't see us retaining all three of SoJ, TDK and Pitto at the expense of a lot of run and carry. Maybe if SoJ stays Newnes might be unlucky, with SoJ to a wing. Mind you, SoJ would be one of my first picked week in and week out, simply because he bleeds navy blue.

Oddly, as I was thinking about Kemp's lack of midfield opportunities, I thought back to when we used SoJ as a chop-out option for Cripps, this could again be useful when not required to ruck. Might have been very useful Saturday night if we had another ruck option available.

TDK is playing well but looks sore, some time off or even some time resting forward in place of SoJ might be the cure.

If Hayes goes out, LoB or Setterfield will be the only feasible ins, Hayes and Durdin had little impact against the Handbaggers, LoB and Setterfield were both good in the VFL.

[member=105]Thryleon[/member]  Agree on Gov, to me he looked out of touch and out of sorts, I thought Kemp had more VFL influence on the day.

Jack silvagni is leading the competition for marks on lead out of forward 50 and you want him dropped? 

What did he do to you?  The guy went quiet after we put him in the ruck this week and our scoring dried right up.

Sos is no superstar but he is way more important to our team than you think he is.

[Gointocarlton]

Jack silvagni is leading the competition for marks on lead out of forward 50 and you want him dropped? 

What did he do to you?  The guy went quiet after we put him in the ruck this week and our scoring dried right up.

Sos is no superstar but he is way more important to our team than you think he is.

I'd have another 5 SOS's if I could over some of the other blokes we have on the list. Heart, courage and effort personified week in week out. Like you say, no superstar but if we make finals, just watch him and take note of his worth then.