AFL Rd 15 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

[ElwoodBlues1]

People are always worried about the bad stuff, they tend to see the worst case all the time.

If Freo load up on talls to "take advantage" of our bad tall defender situation, they better hit targets, because if the pill hits the deck they won't stop Saad, Doc, LoB and Boyd, even Durdin and Owies, streaming it out of our D50 almost unhindered! All we need is to ensure we have the pressure on in the midfield to affect those disposals entering our D50!

Swings and Roundabouts, there is always a way!

Last time we had our hands full with their smalls and Schultz was all over our small defenders who were caught out off their man kick chasing, we would want to do a better job this time manning them up.
They also have Fyfe back in the team who gives them another big mid and marking target, we would want be a lot more careful with our matchups than we were vs Collingwood and Richmond. This is a winnable game being at Marvel and imo the only way we will lose is to put some of our more risky players on some of their better players.

[kruddler]

So we should pick them all just in case, obviously that is untenable!

I didn't read a single forum member on here positively mention Sweet when we were into Young, and both Sweet and Young have been in the system playing together since 2018.

No matter which one we pick up, some will assert in hindsight it should have been the other, some will assert it in advance! :

Who is suggesting its either/or?

Sweet is a ruck.
Young is a back....who played a bit in the ruck due to a need.

FWIW, i haven't suggested we draft Sweet, i haven't said we shouldn't.
I've made my stance pretty clear that we have a severe lack of KPPs and would welcome anyone who could hold their own and stay out on the park.

[tonyo]

I am really hoping for some post-bye lethargy from Freo.  They weren't that great against an undermanned Hawks team, and I am expecting that anything Lobb and Tabberner can produce will be significantly less than H and Charlie.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I am really hoping for some post-bye lethargy from Freo.  They weren't that great against an undermanned Hawks team, and I am expecting that anything Lobb and Tabberner can produce will be significantly less than H and Charlie.

This is where we win the game if we can generate enough supply, Harry and Charlie are our trumps, we probably need more output from our small forwards to match the Freo group who stitched us up last time.

[Baggers]

This is where we win the game if we can generate enough supply, Harry and Charlie are our trumps, we probably need more output from our small forwards to match the Freo group who stitched us up last time.

I suspect sides will attempt to replicate the Tiggers against us, firstly significantly reduce the impact of our midfield - supply. Then a focus on backline defense/tactics to limit impact. Side benefit of more inside 50s for them.

Losing Cerra was a blow and Bam Bam being a whisker below best (still good, though) and Fisher just too light when he goes into the midfield has proven problematic (and of course, Pitto). A Carroll or Hayes might need to come in.

[Mantis]

I hope Freo don’t destroy us on the scoreboard. If we lose by 3 goals or less, I will be happy with the result. We can’t keep being competitive with what we have available. Better squads have done worse with less injury issues to key players than we have. The football gods will need to do something special to get us over the line against Freo. Not being negative. Just realistic. I will pray and have hope. Just won’t be devastated if we don’t get over the line.

[Thryleon]

I wouldn't give up too soon, but this is a bit of a perfect storm.  Playing at the Dome means a dry deck, which means less ball coming to ground.  We were likely a better chance last week going smaller, and playing a more running game with the open spaces and greasy conditions at the MCG.  Never the less, its not over until the lady warms up her pipes.

IF I were the MC, I would plan to rove to a losing Ruckman as a start.  I think I would play Kemp back to supplement Young, ruck a combination of TDK with either Mirkov, or JSOS, and then look to employ the exact tactics that Hawthorn used against us which is load up the backline and get players on their bike running forward.  Shame we don't have Williams for this, but it will have to be Docherty, Saad and Newman doing this, with Plow, and Young doing the stay at home jobs, with JSOS or TDK dropping behind the ball to supplement.  Supplement Charlie and Harry forward with Cripps to try and make Freo cover our talls at that end and go with a bunch of runners outside of that.  If you can cover the ground well, you are a better chance to get in this week IMHO because when you dont have height, you need run.

A bit of luck, and we can jag a win this weekend.  Unfortunately for us, the home ground advantage is not so good, because Freo are coming off the bye, which could help or hurt us.  In this case, they might have a few cobwebs and play a looser game, so we might need to capitalise on this early.  If we look to run it this week, the lack of conditioning could hurt them.

[LP]

Is Cerra back this week?

[DJC]

I wouldn't give up too soon, but this is a bit of a perfect storm.  Playing at the Dome means a dry deck, which means less ball coming to ground.  We were likely a better chance last week going smaller, and playing a more running game with the open spaces and greasy conditions at the MCG.  Never the less, its not over until the lady warms up her pipes.

IF I were the MC, I would plan to rove to a losing Ruckman as a start.  I think I would play Kemp back to supplement Young, ruck a combination of TDK with either Mirkov, or JSOS, and then look to employ the exact tactics that Hawthorn used against us which is load up the backline and get players on their bike running forward.  Shame we don't have Williams for this, but it will have to be Docherty, Saad and Newman doing this, with Plow, and Young doing the stay at home jobs, with JSOS or TDK dropping behind the ball to supplement.  Supplement Charlie and Harry forward with Cripps to try and make Freo cover our talls at that end and go with a bunch of runners outside of that.  If you can cover the ground well, you are a better chance to get in this week IMHO because when you dont have height, you need run.

A bit of luck, and we can jag a win this weekend.  Unfortunately for us, the home ground advantage is not so good, because Freo are coming off the bye, which could help or hurt us.  In this case, they might have a few cobwebs and play a looser game, so we might need to capitalise on this early.  If we look to run it this week, the lack of conditioning could hurt them.

When are you starting your role with the MC Thry?

You would think that the MC would follow a similar path.  However, the members of the MC are paid big bucks to come up with winning combinations and you never know what they’re thinking until the team’s announced or Vossy gives away one selection.

Kemp, in form, would provide run out of defence and his work last game could earn him selection in the firsts.  I’d like to see him named in the 22.

I’d also like to see Stocker in the 22 but none of our defenders from the Richmond game should be dropped.

Adding Mirkov to the 22 is an interesting question.  I think that his ruckwork has deteriorated as the season has progressed.  In the opening rounds he was leaping over his opponent and palming or punching the ball to advantage.  He now seems to want to initiate body contact, stop his opponent jumping, and use his reach to bring the ball down to his feet.  It’s not working and would give Darcy and Lobb field days.  Would that be better than Jack and Crippa in the ruck?

Mirkov only took one mark against Footscray and you’d want more than that from your beanpole.

[Thryleon]

When are you starting your role with the MC Thry?

You would think that the MC would follow a similar path.  However, the members of the MC are paid big bucks to come up with winning combinations and you never know what they’re thinking until the team’s announced or Vossy gives away one selection.

Kemp, in form, would provide run out of defence and his work last game could earn him selection in the firsts.  I’d like to see him named in the 22.

I’d also like to see Stocker in the 22 but none of our defenders from the Richmond game should be dropped.

Adding Mirkov to the 22 is an interesting question.  I think that his ruckwork has deteriorated as the season has progressed.  In the opening rounds he was leaping over his opponent and palming or punching the ball to advantage.  He now seems to want to initiate body contact, stop his opponent jumping, and use his reach to bring the ball down to his feet.  It’s not working and would give Darcy and Lobb field days.  Would that be better than Jack and Crippa in the ruck?

Mirkov only took one mark against Footscray and you’d want more than that from your beanpole.

LOL, Im no football expert, but the one reason to try Mirkov is simply because shock value might be something we can leverage and use to advantage.  Might cost Freo a quarter or two before they realise there will be no JSos rucking, and if its working out well, we get the bonus of being able to use TDK and JSOS to stretch the opposition defense.

If it goes poorly it could be a losing tactic, but its worth a crack this week as the alternative is probably not dissimilar anyway.