AFL Rd 8 2022 Post Game Celebrations Carlton vs Adelaide

[kruddler]

And when the admins are clueless

We know the result of that.....the last 2 decades!

[Blue Moon]

Admins only undermine when the coach is clueless.

The point I was making wasn't one where I was rehashing the arguments for or against Teague, the point I was making was that teams suffer when Administrations undermine the existing coach, whoever that is. Supporting the Coach provides a stable base that enables the football team to at least have the opportunity to maximise their potential. Destabilising the Coach prevents any opportunity for this to happen.

[tonyo]

Made sweeter by the fact it was the draft pick from West Coast for SPS that got him and SPS not exactly setting the world on fire with a dozen or so cheap possessions each week and barely kicks the ball more than 20m every time he gets it.

Have to feel for SPS - talk about jumping from a frypan into a fire!  WCE are a rabble.

[Thryleon]

There is a bit of what came first the chicken or the egg when we talk about the coach failing and the admins undermining him.

We find out once the admins already have it in their head that the coach is a dead man walking, and although it comes across as the administration undermining the coach, I think its the opposite, and that we just find out that the writing is on the wall.

[Gointocarlton]

Have to feel for SPS - talk about jumping from a frypan into a fire!  WCE are a rabble.

arkim

[DJC]

Melbourne are undefeated but I don't think they would have won all 4 quarters in many games.
Probably should have checked the data on that before posting but I'll stick my neck out.

Melbourne has won all four quarters once this season.  They have lost the second quarter three times, the third quarter once and the last quarter three times for eight wins and seven lost quarters in total.  We have lost sixteen quarters for six wins.

[WASurfer]

Tonyo....I saw a WAFL game about 4 weeks ago with SPS playing for the WCE side against Perth. He ran around at half pace, didn't see him lay a tackle or chase once and every kick he got was a 25m chip pass. On WAFL form he shouldn't be playing at the top level at the moment and probably only is because of their injuries and Covid outs. I think at the time a few of us were unhappy at the draft pick (42?) that we got but on form, I think we did extremely well out of that trade.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I think Honey, Fisher and Owies probably compete for the same spot, I see Martin as much better and bigger overhead marking threat than any of the other options.

Honey will have to get much better at covering the ground to threaten Owies or Fisher.

Honey is stronger in the body and a much better more reliable kick and I liken him more to Gary Rohan...IMO he would kick more goals than the others but Owies, Durdin and to a lesser extent Martin will create more for their teammates being more frenzied tacklers and switched on for more quarters. Like Martin and Rohan I think Honey goes missing for parts of games too much which was the case when I watched him in the U18s. I agree Martin is a good overhead mark but his conversion isnt great for a player who has good field kicking skills.

[kruddler]

Tonyo....I saw a WAFL game about 4 weeks ago with SPS playing for the WCE side against Perth. He ran around at half pace, didn't see him lay a tackle or chase once and every kick he got was a 25m chip pass. On WAFL form he shouldn't be playing at the top level at the moment and probably only is because of their injuries and Covid outs. I think at the time a few of us were unhappy at the draft pick (42?) that we got but on form, I think we did extremely well out of that trade.

It really doesn't matter what 'pick' we got for SPS, we had pre-planned to get Lewis Young from it.

So we just need to look at it from the point of view that we swapped SPS for Young.
HUGE win.

[JonDorotich]

Honey is stronger in the body and a much better more reliable kick and I liken him more to Gary Rohan...IMO he would kick more goals than the others but Owies, Durdin and to a lesser extent Martin will create more for their teammates being more frenzied tacklers and switched on for more quarters. Like Martin and Rohan I think Honey goes missing for parts of games too much which was the case when I watched him in the U18s. I agree Martin is a good overhead mark but his conversion isnt great for a player who has good field kicking skills.

If their bodies can hold up, Honey and Cunningham will give us the zip and line breaking speed  to take the side to a whole new level. Honey is a much better proposition than all of Owies, Durdin and Martin and Cunningham has OBrien and Newnes covered. Fingers crossed they’re playing 2H of the year.