AFL Rd 8 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

[LP]

Boyd is a newbie, there were many on here saying as much about Weitering in his first season, and some even in the 2nd.

Jones was written of by most fans as a deadset waste of time and money, for how many seasons, and now he's dearly missed.

sMurph never stopped being sledged by many Carlton fans as soft and each week was going to be his last, how many games?

Betts was rubbished early, much the same as Boyd, left as a traitor and returned as a messiah.

LoB rubbish, always was always will be apparently, now it seems things seem to have changed.

Plowman has been a spud from day one onwards to eternity.

I'll reserve judgement of players beyond the 3 game limit!

[crashlander]

Backs:  Zac Williams  Jacob Weitering  Nic Newman
Half-backs:  Adam Saad  Lewis Young  Sam Docherty
Centreline:  Jack Carroll  Patrick Cripps  Lochie O'Brien
Half-forwards:  Zac Fisher  Charlie Curnow  Jack Martin
Forwards:  Matthew Owies  Harry McKay  Corey Durdin
Followers:  Tom De Koning  Sam Walsh  Adam Cerra
Interchange:  Matthew Kennedy  Jack Newnes  Lachie Plowman  Jack Silvagni
Emergencies:  Jordan Boyd  Matthew Cottrell  Paddy Dow  Jesse Motlop

[madbluboy]

Boyd is a newbie, there were many on here saying as much about Weitering in his first season, and some even in the 2nd.

Jones was written of by most fans as a deadset waste of time and money, for how many seasons, and now he's dearly missed.

sMurph never stopped being sledged by many Carlton fans as soft and each week was going to be his last, how many games?

Betts was rubbished early, much the same as Boyd, left as a traitor and returned as a messiah.

LoB rubbish, always was always will be apparently, now it seems things seem to have changed.

Plowman has been a spud from day one onwards to eternity.

I'll reserve judgement of players beyond the 3 game limit!

Multiple premierships there hey?

[ElwoodBlues1]

Boyd is a newbie, there were many on here saying as much about Weitering in his first season, and some even in the 2nd.

Jones was written of by most fans as a deadset waste of time and money, for how many seasons, and now he's dearly missed.

sMurph never stopped being sledged by many Carlton fans as soft and each week was going to be his last, how many games?

Betts was rubbished early, much the same as Boyd, left as a traitor and returned as a messiah.

LoB rubbish, always was always will be apparently, now it seems things seem to have changed.

Plowman has been a spud from day one onwards to eternity.

I'll reserve judgement of players beyond the 3 game limit!

Boyd was a mid season rookie pick from the Dogs VFL list...Weitering was a highly touted No 1 pick with different expectations.
Murphy see Weitering, LOB, and Plowman were all top ten picks so again different expectations and bars to set and reach.
Eddie was a good get but I think the messiah label was probably more appropriate at the Crows, when we got him back he was half cooked, winding down and was more valuable as a consul for players like Martin.
Why would we recruit Boyd when we had just taken on Saad and Williams and already had Docherty and Stocker as smaller rebounders/ defenders especially when the first three are that rebounding kick winning distributor type in the main like Boyd?

[Thryleon]

Boyd was a mid season rookie pick from the Dogs VFL list...Weitering was a highly touted No 1 pick with different expectations.
Murphy see Weitering, LOB, and Plowman were all top ten picks so again different expectations and bars to set and reach.
Eddie was a good get but I think the messiah label was probably more appropriate at the Crows, when we got him back he was half cooked, winding down and was more valuable as a consul for players like Martin.
Why would we recruit Boyd when we had just taken on Saad and Williams and already had Docherty and Stocker as smaller rebounders/ defenders especially when the first three are that rebounding kick winning distributor type in the main like Boyd?

My guess is boyd was a docherty cover.  Only thing that makes sense is we weren't anticipating docs return.

Aside from that I don't see a lot, but im willing to be patient. 

[Swan43]

Agree but ... attitude.

[kruddler]

Boyd is a newbie, there were many on here saying as much about Weitering in his first season, and some even in the 2nd.

Jones was written of by most fans as a deadset waste of time and money, for how many seasons, and now he's dearly missed.

sMurph never stopped being sledged by many Carlton fans as soft and each week was going to be his last, how many games?

Betts was rubbished early, much the same as Boyd, left as a traitor and returned as a messiah.

LoB rubbish, always was always will be apparently, now it seems things seem to have changed.

Plowman has been a spud from day one onwards to eternity.

I'll reserve judgement of players beyond the 3 game limit!

Rewriting a bit of history there mate.

Every single player throughout history has had their detractors and naysayers.....but its usually pretty clear why they were picked up and if they can handle it.

The players you mentioned above all showed signs at various stages. Some needed a position change, some confidence, some people to put their own bias aside.

Boyd is not a kid, he should be further ahead than he is.....and there has been limited improvement in close to a year now.....and in reality he has gone backwards despite being given plenty of 'airtime' to show his wares.

[LP]

Boyd is not a kid, he should be further ahead than he is.....and there has been limited improvement in close to a year now.....and in reality he has gone backwards despite being given plenty of 'airtime' to show his wares.

And yet someone like Marchbank plays VFL today!

I'm not pro or anti Boyd, but if we pick players up they should be given a reasonable run free of injury to make their mark. Now if I recall Boyd was flying in his first couple of VFL games and got a major injury and was out for a chunk of last season, the game he got injured those of us who watch VFL regularly stated he should have been an AFL in after just a handful of VFL games. I'm not even sure a COVID season counts as a normal opportunity to develop players.

Players need a trick to feature in AFL, and Boyd has a boot on him that is significant given good form and a run of uninterrupted development. Whether he turns into a durable AFL option might come down to luck, just like Marchbank.

Voss says he likes what he sees about Boyd, he says the same about Marchbank, I've no reason as yet to distrust Voss in fact I back him in because Voss is filling me full of confidence win or lose as each week passes!

If Voss has a spot for Boyd then Boyd has a spot, plain and simple.

[Baggers]

And yet someone like Marchbank plays VFL today!

I'm not pro or anti Boyd, but if we pick players up they should be given a reasonable run free of injury to make their mark. Now if I recall Boyd was flying in his first couple of VFL games and got a major injury and was out for a chunk of last season, the game he got injured those of us who watch VFL regularly stated he should have been an AFL in after just a handful of VFL games. I'm not even sure a COVID season counts as a normal opportunity to develop players.

Players need a trick to feature in AFL, and Boyd has a boot on him that is significant given good form and a run of uninterrupted development. Whether he turns into a durable AFL option might come down to luck, just like Marchbank.

Voss says he likes what he sees about Boyd, he says the same about Marchbank, I've no reason as yet to distrust Voss in fact I back him in because Voss is filling me full of confidence win or lose as each week passes!

If Voss has a spot for Boyd then Boyd has a spot, plain and simple.

Well said, Spotted One. The Vossmeister said on arrival that every player, with him, had a blank slate. You cannot ask for any more than that. Same goes for Boyd. Like everyone, he's got 2022 to prove himself.

Like many, I've been disappointed with what Boyd has shown, until very recently. His last game in the VFL was a ripper. He has something going for him that is trumps in anyone's book, a terrific attitude and work ethic. Although he's delivered some howlers on field, he's also shown some encouraging glimpses. Owing to so many injuries, in some respects, he's been thrown in the deep end and not had the opportunity to develop confidence in the Magoos. Let's give the kid a chance.

[WASurfer]

Boyd a late in for Plowman.