Election 2022 (Poll added)

[Mav]

Perhaps we were worried Tom Cruise would have launched an attack from the nearest aircraft carrier if we hadn't.

[LP]

Didn't the bloke who started it say it was a joke? How we let them into Aus and build/buy land is bewildering...

L Ron Hubbard, a SciFi author, and he didn't say it was a joke, the truth is he started it as a bet to win a debate by proving how gullible the wider public could be to some of the shyster like practises of the time including psychotherapy, chiropractics and other questionable welfare practises at the time, and he won the bet!

He also profited quite nicely from it, because he borrowed many of the ideologies from his own science fiction writing, which boosted the sale of his books.

Did you know that the term "Blowing smoke us your ar5e" stems from a real 20th century health practise, much like radium water treatment and anti-asthma cigarettes?

People, the public, in fact probably all of us, are mostly dickheads in one form or another!

But you don't want to write too much about this, they scrape the web and attack anything and anyone that raises the question, the web is flooded with official facts and studies that claim the debate / bet / wager wasn't true, but those "official reports and investigations" are all basically rooted in Scientology or Institutions connected to it. You see to focus on L Ron Hubbard is wrong, he lost control of Scientology long long ago, in fact not long after he invented it when the shysters that profit from it now saw the dollars and weaselled their way into controlling the future momentum of Dianetics. L Ron invented a scam, he didn't run with it. If we talked too much this forum will be under a DDoS attack before dawn!

[capcom]

They're a very sick bunch of cretins

[LP]

They're a very sick bunch of cretins

Very sick, in terms of low morality, The Leaders as opposed to the followers.

They don't see themselves like the Orange People but they aren't really much different.

However, I make a point it's dangerous to think of them as cretins, in fact they are are far from it and probably closer having a very high emotional and social intelligence, and that makes them dangerous!

The people who fall into these religious or lifestyle schemes really are not all that different to people who fall in to a Ponzi or Pyramid scheme, and I know more than enough wealthy seemingly respected business types who have fallen prey to such scams including a few Carlton players!

[capcom]

I've had run ins with them ... in SFO ... trust me, they ARE cretins. 

Add in some brutal encounters with pyramid scammers

[Thryleon]

You know, Orthodox Christianity has its own issues, but the priests are allowed to marry and have kids of their own.

Only the devout monks take themselves out of society, but they go to remote monasteries and isolate themselves from society.

If you do the research, its simply east meets west (the first time around) and ends in schism.  I always state, that religion is a tool used by autocrats, not the other way around, but in some cases its clear for the world to see that it has been hijacked by unsavoury types.

[DJC]

Not every Catholic Priest is a pedo, just saying.

Of course not G2C, and other religions have their share too.  The faith is irrelevant when it comes to recompense for abuse.

[kruddler]

How is the "Church" of Scientology even a Church?

Ask yourselves the same question about [insert any religeon here].
Controversial, sure, but the deeper you dig...

Trey Parker and Matt Stone, creators of South Park and The Book of Mormon broadway show have made a career out of taking the piss from things that don't add up, and religion is a favourite topic....Mormons their 'go-to'.
Scientology is larger understood to be a new religion based on shaky foundations.

Here is the readers digest version of the mormons.
https://www.youtube.com/v/W4NemVO4JL0

[DJC]

L Ron Hubbard, a SciFi author, and he didn't say it was a joke, the truth is he started it as a bet to win a debate by proving how gullible the wider public could be to some of the shyster like practises of the time including psychotherapy, chiropractics and other questionable welfare practises at the time, and he won the bet!

He also profited quite nicely from it, because he borrowed many of the ideologies from his own science fiction writing, which boosted the sale of his books.

Did you know that the term "Blowing smoke us your ar5e" stems from a real 20th century health practise, much like radium water treatment and anti-asthma cigarettes?

People, the public, in fact probably all of us, are mostly dickheads in one form or another!

But you don't want to write too much about this, they scrape the web and attack anything and anyone that raises the question, the web is flooded with official facts and studies that claim the debate / bet / wager wasn't true, but those "official reports and investigations" are all basically rooted in Scientology or Institutions connected to it. You see to focus on L Ron Hubbard is wrong, he lost control of Scientology long long ago, in fact not long after he invented it when the shysters that profit from it now saw the dollars and weaselled their way into controlling the future momentum of Dianetics. L Ron invented a scam, he didn't run with it. If we talked too much this forum will be under a DDoS attack before dawn!

Blowing smoke up your arse comes from a treatment for drowning that was practised in the late 1700s.  Life saving stations were equipped with pipes and tobacco.

One of my grandfathers was a Scientology devotee and used to send us L Ron Hubbard’s books (scientology, not science fiction).  My Mum wouldn’t let him in the house!

He was a crook and nasty piece of work and I suspect that scientology was perfect for him.

[LP]

One of my grandfathers was a Scientology devotee and used to send us L Ron Hubbard’s books.  My Mum wouldn’t let him in the house!

He was a crook and nasty piece of work and I suspect that scientology was perfect for him.

Yes, as they say in the Mandalorian, "This is the way!"

For a grifter or scammer Scientology and it's victims are like a pollen to a bee!