AFL Rd 4 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Gold Coast

[LP]

FYI....apparantly McKay has been fined $1000 for staging/flopping late in the game.

More likely they MRO thinks his broken nose was a fake, he is a Carlton player after all!

[kruddler]

More likely they MRO thinks his broken nose was a fake, he is a Carlton player after all!

Different incident, and that was a head clash in a marking contest, so they couldn't get him for that.
*remembers Plowman being suspended for an accidental head clash in a marking contest*

Funny how McKay gets done for that. Setterfield copped a round arm to the head while jumping for a loose ball in the pocket and didn't even warrant a free kick for head high contact.
If you are going to scrutinise the game to the level where McKay gets fined, then at least look at the setterfield incident.

[LP]

Different incident, and that was a head clash in a marking contest, so they couldn't get him for that.
*remembers Plowman being suspended for an accidental head clash in a marking contest*

Funny how McKay gets done for that. Setterfield copped a round arm to the head while jumping for a loose ball in the pocket and didn't even warrant a free kick for head high contact.
If you are going to scrutinise the game to the level where McKay gets fined, then at least look at the setterfield incident.

Yes, I know I was joking (half joking)

What about that Plowman collision in the last quarter, the GC player flopped to the ground holding his head and Plowman didn't even make contact that high! I can't believe Plowman didn't get life ban for that one!

I wonder how long it will be before Voss develops the us and them mentality, this will be the first time in his illustrious career that he is experiencing this stuff! I hope he keeps his composure, I hope he keeps his smile!

[Thryleon]

If you want to see why the MRO treat us the way they do, look no further than AFLW.  Maddie P has been clobbered illegally in the AFLW and gets the raw end of the stick, and now shes leaving to go to Essendon.

This is something I have thought about.  Why would you play at the place which is deemed AFL purgatory when you can go to windy hill and get the gold treatment because they are "good for footy".

[kruddler]

If you want to see why the MRO treat us the way they do, look no further than AFLW.  Maddie P has been clobbered illegally in the AFLW and gets the raw end of the stick, and now shes leaving to go to Essendon.

This is something I have thought about.  Why would you play at the place which is deemed AFL purgatory when you can go to windy hill and get the gold treatment because they are "good for footy".

You will find many people saying similar across every AFL club site.

I do not subscribe to this theory.

FWIW, Patrick Cripps is =20th in free kicks for this year. He did miss over half the game on the weekend (which works out to be 1/8th less potential time on ground than others.
Increase his free kick count by the difference (assuming he'd receive the same amount of free kicks in the time he missed)
and he get 1 more free kick, which makes him =10th in the league for frees for.

Now if what you say is true, surely the AFL wouldn't allow that.

Yet, we still think he's hard done by.

Short version...
BS.

[LP]

FWIW, Patrick Cripps is =20th in free kicks for this year. He did miss over half the game on the weekend (which works out to be 1/8th less potential time on ground than others.

The vast bulk of Cripps free kicks are for being held, the one thing that is dead set obvious to an umpire is a taggers arm around the waist or a stretched jumper. He's hardly had a free kick for high contact, which seems ironic given the opposition rip his head off multiple times a game and have to effectively reach up to do it!

Cripps like Prespakis puts his head over the footy to pick it up in traffic and get's stuff all protection, Selwood cleans up on frees in the same circumstance! It can't be size related, or else Prespakis at the other end of the spectrum would have been a monty for 10 frees a game!

Did you notice how much high contact we copped last weekend without a free kick being awarded, how about Owies or Setterfield? They weren't just high contact they were also front on contact and it was play on, it's untenable three field umpires can miss such obvious infringements! We hate Scott for his whinging, but perhaps it's time we did some of our own, at least just asking the questions in a suitable public forum.

[LordLucifer]

Could write three pages on how bad that was, the wheels completely fell off and to add insult to injury, not one of our players wanted to put them back on.

Way to complacent, a refusal to tackle & chase, too much finger pointing to a team-mate to instruct them to mind an opponent ........ I could go on !!

This game showed up a number of players as frauds and not being prepared to fight when the game was on the line. Don't get me wrong, the Suns played well and thoroughly deserved to win but we were barely competitive after quarter time, no-one wanted to take ownership and fight it out, pathetic really.

Setterfield ......... FFS, banish this bloke to the magoos forever, looks like Tarzan but plays like a pre-school ballerina.

Fisher ..... running around on the spot spectating, may as well taken the ground with a deckchair and some binoculars.

Fogerty ..... supposedly Cats fans were upset to lose him, I bet they don't want him back now, here's a subtle hint for you Lachie - lay multiple tackles and apply some forward 50 pressure, otherwise, go back to the quilting classes.

Walsh .... had 28 disposals ........ bugger me, I struggled to see any of them, he is not even half the player we know he should be.

McKay .... 4 marks & 7 kicks for the tallest player on the ground who then copped a $1K fine for staging ..... get out the viagra eye-drops and stand in front of a mirror, time for you take a long hard look at yourself.

Plowman ........ WTF does the match committee, coaching staff & a selective section of the supporter base see in this clown ?? He is the biggest liability on the list, banish him to the Ukraine where he spend his hours running around dodging Russians instead of opposition players.

De Koning ....... qualified as a Life Member of Mensa with his attempt to touch that set shot at goal by standing 5-metres inside the field of play instead of starting off behind the goal umpire.

Martin ......... we don't want to see your highlights reel, we just want to see the whole meat & potatoes stuff, I've said it before and I'm confirming it again here, this guy is a bone-fide overpaid dud, come at me !!!

Kennedy ........ you were given a golden opportunity to stamp your individual presence on a game with Cripps going off injured,  I don't care how good you have been in previous weeks, this was your time to show genuine leadership and lead the midfield, you failed the exam miserably.

Cerra ........... paid the big bucks but with no discernable impact on the match, I'll cut you some slack this one and only time, never ever put up another crap-show like that again.

Newman ...... who the feck do you think you are, Hulk Hogan or King Kong Bundy ?? Fancy wrestling with that midget Ainswerth and then giving away a 50-m penalty that resulted in a certain goal - your papers are stamped now son !!!

One of the few players that genuinely earnt his pay packet was Lochie O'Brien and I'm certainly no fan of his. He was not afraid to tackle, chase, bump or at one stage, go up in the ruck, he was bleeding for the jumper even though he has some serious limitations, some of his team-mates should have been embarrassed to look him in the eye.

And Charlie Curnow ...... take your screwing time when having a set-shot for goal, OOTF does us no favours at all. 

[ElwoodBlues1]

Could write three pages on how bad that was, the wheels completely fell off and to add insult to injury, not one of our players wanted to put them back on.

Way to complacent, a refusal to tackle & chase, too much finger pointing to a team-mate to instruct them to mind an opponent ........ I could go on !!

This game showed up a number of players as frauds and not being prepared to fight when the game was on the line. Don't get me wrong, the Suns played well and thoroughly deserved to win but we were barely competitive after quarter time, no-one wanted to take ownership and fight it out, pathetic really.

Setterfield ......... FFS, banish this bloke to the magoos forever, looks like Tarzan but plays like a pre-school ballerina.

Fisher ..... running around on the spot spectating, may as well taken the ground with a deckchair and some binoculars.

Fogerty ..... supposedly Cats fans were upset to lose him, I bet they don't want him back now, here's a subtle hint for you Lachie - lay multiple tackles and apply some forward 50 pressure, otherwise, go back to the quilting classes.

Walsh .... had 28 disposals ........ bugger me, I struggled to see any of them, he is not even half the player we know he should be.

McKay .... 4 marks & 7 kicks for the tallest player on the ground who then copped a $1K fine for staging ..... get out the viagra eye-drops and stand in front of a mirror, time for you take a long hard look at yourself.

Plowman ........ WTF does the match committee, coaching staff & a selective section of the supporter base see in this clown ?? He is the biggest liability on the list, banish him to the Ukraine where he spend his hours running around dodging Russians instead of opposition players.

De Koning ....... qualified as a Life Member of Mensa with his attempt to touch that set shot at goal by standing 5-metres inside the field of play instead of starting off behind the goal umpire.

Martin ......... we don't want to see your highlights reel, we just want to see the whole meat & potatoes stuff, I've said it before and I'm confirming it again here, this guy is a bone-fide overpaid dud, come at me !!!

Kennedy ........ you were given a golden opportunity to stamp your individual presence on a game with Cripps going off injured,  I don't care how good you have been in previous weeks, this was your time to show genuine leadership and lead the midfield, you failed the exam miserably.

Cerra ........... paid the big bucks but with no discernable impact on the match, I'll cut you some slack this one and only time, never ever put up another crap-show like that again.

Newman ...... who the feck do you think you are, Hulk Hogan or King Kong Bundy ?? Fancy wrestling with that midget Ainswerth and then giving away a 50-m penalty that resulted in a certain goal - your papers are stamped now son !!!

One of the few players that genuinely earnt his pay packet was Lochie O'Brien and I'm certainly no fan of his. He was not afraid to tackle, chase, bump or at one stage, go up in the ruck, he was bleeding for the jumper even though he has some serious limitations, some of his team-mates should have been embarrassed to look him in the eye.

And Charlie Curnow ...... take your screwing time when having a set-shot for goal, OOTF does us no favours at all. 

Some fair points there brother Lucifer and yep O'Brien showed more spirit than a few of his better paid teammates and wants to stay on the list.
If some of our defenders could actually defend instead of getting useless cheap possessions it might help too.

[WASurfer]

EB, I made the point on another thread....most of our best players were defenders....but who was on Rosas? Playing about his 6th game, kicked 3 goals and made us look stupid. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Plowman on him.....he was too busy watching Lukosius waltz away from him. It might've been Newman....who, IMO, is having a very ordinary season and wouldn't surprise me to see him dropped this week and replaced with Stocker down back. We'll need someone to man up on Robbie Gray.

[DJC]

I don't really have much to say apart from very disappointing but entirely predictable after Fogarty replaced Pittonet  :

I was critical of Boyd in the previous game and didn't think a lot of his pre-season efforts.  However, I thought that he played quite well, used the ball pretty well and certainly wasn't among our poorer players on Sunday.  That said, I'm not entirely sure whether his presence helps our defensive set up.  I guess it depends on the sort of player he is set to defend.