AFLW 2022 Rd 4: Carlton vs North Melbourne

[shawny]

Good grief…
Don’t go, don’t tune in.
I think it’s scandalous that you are being forced to watch ?

How good was the cows v dees game though, both hard at the ball.

I only watch one game a week and that only
because of the jumper. I can’t believe anyone can watch that standard and say it’s a decent level. If you see 2 consecutive passes on target in a passage of play you are doing well.
It’s a scrappy mess that resembles u16s local footy at best. 

[Thryleon]

I only watch one game a week and that only
because of the jumper. I can’t believe anyone can watch that standard and say it’s a decent level. If you see 2 consecutive passes on target in a passage of play you are doing well.
It’s a scrappy mess that resembles u16s local footy at best. 

Sounds like our men's team for the last 20 years

[LP]

I think part of the issue is that being semi-professional brings great variability, not just game to game but moment to moment. You can see the glimpses of play, but they break down very quickly.

I remain convinced part of the problem is that the AFLW is being too closely modelled on the AFL, the AFL game style and tactics do not suit the girls, giving in to the girl's desire to play under the same basic rules and style is doing them a disservice. I had expected the AFLW to be a much faster but lighter impact more heavily team orientated style of game play, not dissimilar to the difference between the Premier League and the Women's Premier League.

I continue to be be gobsmacked at how little reward and protection Maddy Prespakis gets for her efforts, she lays tackle after tackle, her opponents throw the ball away, and she gets nothing form the umpires. When she attacks the football opponents trip or tackle her illegally time after time and again the umpires give her nothing.

[Baggers]

I think part of the issue is that being semi-professional brings is great variability, not just game to game but moment to moment. You can see the glimpses of play, but they break down very quickly.

I remain convinced part of the problem is that the AFLW is being too closely modelled on the AFL, the AFL game style and tactics do not suit the girls, giving in to the girl's desire to play under the same basic rules and style is doing them a disservice. I had expected the AFLW to be a much faster but lighter impact more heavily team orientated style of game play, not dissimilar to the difference between the Premier League and the Women's Premier League.

I continue to be be gobsmacked at how little reward and protection Maddy Prespakis gets for her efforts, she lays tackle after tackle, her opponents throw the ball away, and she gets nothing form the umpires. When she attacks the football opponents trip or tackle her illegally time after time and again the umpires give her nothing.

Same page, Spotted one.

At the risk of sounding like a smarty pants -- again -- this was my point from the get-go. Expecting the gals to play under exactly the same rules/ground sizes as the fellas was short-sighted and, well, silly. Even tennis acknowledges the physical differences (3 sets v 5 sets).

Grounds should be smaller and physicality reduced to give the gals more time to execute the skills of the game. And as for the rapid expansion when the talent pool was already shallow, well that was ill-conceived as mentioned by plenty a while ago.

I'm not as pessimistic as some. I think that with meaningful modifications to allow more ease of flow, the gals game can grow and flourish and become a better spectacle.

Playing the game in the heat of summer is ridiculous... the idea that it can serve as a kind of pre season comp to the blokes is, again, silly. Far better later in the year when the weather is more favourable - our blokes play in the cooler months for a reason... FFS. (Oct/Nov and finishing in Dec would be better).

And expecting the gals to put on a quality product when they are so poorly remunerated - and hence unable to give their sport suitable time and commitment to refine skills, is mind boggling.

[LP]

And expecting the gals to put on a quality product when they are so poorly remunerated - and hence unable to give their sport suitable time and commitment to refine skills, is mind boggling.

[member=61]Baggers[/member]‍ Do you think this exposes a potential lack of commitment by the AFL Big House?

I fear they are doing what is expected of them, not what they want, but even that comes with a remote chance of bringing in big dollars.

Sorry for my cynicism!

[laj]

Same page, Spotted one.

At the risk of sounding like a smarty pants -- again -- this was my point from the get-go. Expecting the gals to play under exactly the same rules/ground sizes as the fellas was short-sighted and, well, silly. Even tennis acknowledges the physical differences (3 sets v 5 sets).

Grounds should be smaller and physicality reduced to give the gals more time to execute the skills of the game. And as for the rapid expansion when the talent pool was already shallow, well that was ill-conceived as mentioned by plenty a while ago.

I'm not as pessimistic as some. I think that with meaningful modifications to allow more ease of flow, the gals game can grow and flourish and become a better spectacle.

Playing the game in the heat of summer is ridiculous... the idea that it can serve as a kind of pre season comp to the blokes is, again, silly. Far better later in the year when the weather is more favourable - our blokes play in the cooler months for a reason... FFS. (Oct/Nov and finishing in Dec would be better).

And expecting the gals to put on a quality product when they are so poorly remunerated - and hence unable to give their sport suitable time and commitment to refine skills, is mind boggling.

There's alot right about this post.

If you are going to enjoy the product more the game needs to make allowances for the different physiology.

The rope in in way more for the women cricketers too.

[laj]

[member=61]Baggers[/member]‍ Do you think this exposes a potential lack of commitment by the AFL Big House?

I fear they are doing what is expected of them, not what they want, but even that comes with a remote chance of bringing in big dollars.

Sorry for my cynicism!

Over many years the game will get bigger and bigger. As that happens, more money comes in, players can become closer to full time players and everything builds from there. Along way off still of course but that's how alot of sports develop.

[Baggers]

[member=61]Baggers[/member]‍ Do you think this exposes a potential lack of commitment by the AFL Big House?

I fear they are doing what is expected of them, not what they want, but even that comes with a remote chance of bringing in big dollars.

Sorry for my cynicism!

I don't think you are at all being cynical. Or maybe we both are!

You mentioned a lack of commitment - I couldn't put it more precisely.

[shawny]

The ground is also too large for this comp. When the average womens  player has a maximum distance of 30-35 metres the length of the ground should be reflective of this imo.

Shortening the ground will mean more scoring and less possessions per goal which until their skills improve is another plus.

[RiverRat]

The ground is also too large for this comp. When the average womens  player has a maximum distance of 30-35 metres the length of the ground should be reflective of this imo.

Shortening the ground will mean more scoring and less possessions per goal which until their skills improve is another plus.

There is logic in what you say but the competition is already being strangled by overly defensive coaching so a reduction in ground size is likely to lead to more congestion and a negative impact on the skills of the game.