Darcy Vescio has an announcement

[kruddler]

https://twitter.com/darcyvee/status/1476103768059957251

[capcom]

Sure they'll be happy

[Thryleon]

This is a bit ridiculous but if it makes her feel better...

So is she going to demand we drop the W from AFL W?

[kruddler]

This is a bit ridiculous but if it makes her feel better...

So is she going to demand we drop the W from AFL W?

Darcy is not the first AFLW player to identify as trans (close) as their is a gold coast player who identified last week.

https://www.pedestrian.tv/sport/the-aflw...o-educate/

Tori Groves-Little has officially become the AFLW’s first openly non-binary player, in a massive move for gender diversity in the sport.

[LP]

The part of this I struggle to understand is that they / them fight for recognition and the right not to be categorised / labelled, then immediately ask to be identified with a specific label!

To me this contradictory behaviour seems to be the exactly opposed to respecting an individuals privacy and rights, and that then reduces the whole event to a form of attention seeking behaviour, so that is why I think it comes across as somewhat disingenuous.

It's a behaviour that seems to be repeated in public frequently. An overt desire to be self-declared as somehow different, uncategorised, apart from mainstream society, special even, then a demand for identification that seems driven by an overarching desire for some form of inclusion. Not just on gender issues, but politics, religion, tribalism, fashion, etc., etc.., it's just become another trend / meme with language warped and reduced to a narcissistic absurdity!

Is it a having your cake and eating it scenario?

[Lods]

I'm struggling a bit with this too.
How do you take this stance and then choose to play in a competition that is built and based on a specific male/female distinctions.

[kruddler]

The part of this I struggle to understand is that they / them fight for recognition and the right not to be categorised / labelled, then immediately ask to be identified with a specific label!

To me this contradictory behaviour seems to be the exactly opposed to respecting an individuals privacy and rights, and that then reduces the whole event to a form of attention seeking behaviour, so that is why I think it comes across as somewhat disingenuous.

It's a behaviour that seems to be repeated in public frequently. An overt desire to be self-declared as somehow different, uncategorised, apart from mainstream society, special even, then a demand for identification that seems driven by an overarching desire for some form of inclusion. Not just on gender issues, but politics, religion, tribalism, fashion, etc., etc.., it's just become another trend / meme with language warped and reduced to a narcissistic absurdity!

Is it a having your cake and eating it scenario?

I think its a matter of not wanting a label.....that is incorrect.

Then providing one that is correct.

[LP]

I think its a matter of not wanting a label.....that is incorrect.

Then providing one that is correct.

I'd say it's more arbitrary than correct, it's the label you have when you're not having a label!

Scoundrels will refer to "they" as "it", and be labelled a hater while being grammatically correct!

Will there be a future in which a female athlete claims prejudicial treatment within the AFLW for not being part of a minority, it seems an absurd suggestion, is it? Imagine that, being treated unfairly by gender bigots for identifying as female!

That would be an interesting question to pose Darcy or others, "Do they believe there is a still a place for females in AFLW?"

[capcom]

Seriously, who gives a **** about her "look at me" pronouncement?

[LP]

Seriously, who gives a **** about her "look at me" pronouncement?

Yes I suspect you are correct, but now I feel overwhelming guilt for lambasting Harris for twittering rather than training! I thought Tayla was perhaps the odd one out, when it may be the case she is the majority!