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Herald Sun 2022 Best 22
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10-08-2021, 07:52 AM
B Saad Jones Kemp
HB Williams Weitering Hewett C Dow Stocker Cerra HF Martin C. Curnow Honey F Silvagni McKay Durdin R TDK, Cripps, Walsh Int Young, Fogarty, E Curnow, Kennedy 
10-09-2021, 11:26 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-09-2021, 08:01 PM by JonDorotich.)
B McGovern Jones Saad
HB Williams Weitering Hewett C Cunningham Cripps Dow HF Honey Curnow Martin F Durdin McKay Silvagni R TDK Walsh Stocker Young, Cerra, Kemp, E Curnow Emerg Pittonet, Fisher, Marchbank Depth Williamson, lob, owies Kennedy setterfield fogarty philp carroll McDonald Plowman Newnes Newman 
10-09-2021, 10:48 PM
(10-08-2021, 07:38 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Fisher isnt a natural forward, he made his name as a U18 midfielder and was recruited on that basis, I find it odd we try and turn players into something else and ignore recruiting specialists for specialist areas.The reality is that not all draftees will get to play in the same position as they did through their underage years, especially those that are on the smaller side. I just don't think Zac has enough size to consistently play as a midfielder - not just height, but also physical power. I would suggest that he and Jack Martin should be looking to wax the role of high half-forward with the odd stint in the middle. And if I were Zac, I would spend some of my summer hours at Melbourne Storm and learn how to tackle consistently.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
10-09-2021, 11:40 PM
(10-09-2021, 10:48 PM)tonyo link Wrote:The reality is that not all draftees will get to play in the same position as they did through their underage years, especially those that are on the smaller side. I just don't think Zac has enough size to consistently play as a midfielder - not just height, but also physical power.Fair points and I think same about size and power. The other issue I have with him as a forward is his lack of marking ability. Most of the good small forwards can take a decent mark and have that as a weapon or have that express pace. In think he is trouble with Honey and Durdin now in the frame for selection too and view them as more natural forwards. Martin is a talent but needs to contribute more than he does... 
10-09-2021, 11:44 PM
(10-09-2021, 11:40 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Fair points and I think same about size and power. The other issue I have with him as a forward is his lack of marking ability. Most of the good small forwards can take a decent mark and have that as a weapon or have that express pace.One thing Zac Fisher has above the others is he is a quick thinker. Remember Murphys game winning goal against Freo? Have a look at how he got that ball. Not many others would've thought to do that, nor been able to execute. Its little touches like that which made Eddie so good. Fisher gets overlooked for that kind of creativity because it doesn't show up on the stats sheet and its hard to see from 80m away in the stands. 
10-09-2021, 11:58 PM
(10-09-2021, 11:44 PM)kruddler date Wrote:Its little touches like that which made Eddie so good.I agree. But as an aside, to me that is not really the problem with Fisher, as good as he can be in that small forward role it looks to me like he doesn't want to be there!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
10-10-2021, 02:11 AM
(10-09-2021, 11:58 PM)LP link Wrote:I agree.Didn't want to be there, but came around to it. Had this convo about 20 times. Check our Making Their Mark on amazon prime.
10-10-2021, 02:59 AM
(10-10-2021, 02:11 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Had this convo about 20 times. Check our Making Their Mark on amazon prime.I know what was said, but to me it's a body language thing, he plays that role without joy or celebration. Maybe it's just his way, but I think he is just not as invested in the team as he once was, it could of course be related to carrying injuries.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
10-10-2021, 03:36 AM
I like no. 6's (Jon Dorotich) side... just a coupla minor changes for mine:
B McGovern Jones Saad HB Newman Weitering Kemp C Cunningham Cripps Cerra HF Honey Curnow Martin F Durdin McKay Silvagni R TDK Walsh Stocker Int: Young, Williams, Hewett, E Curnow Emerg: from, Pittonet, Dow, Williamson, Fisher, Marchbank, LOB, Carrol, Plowman & Fisher Depth: Owies Setterfield Fogarty Philp McDonald Newnes
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
10-10-2021, 04:03 AM
I've gone for a tall line-up to match Melbourne's seven talls:
B: Weitering Jones Newman HB: Plowman Young Saad C: Dow E Curnow Cerra HF: Martin C Curnow De Koning F: Silvagni McKay Owies R: Pittonet, Cripps, Walsh Int: Stocker, Kemp, Williams, Hewett Emerg: Fisher, Fogarty, Williamson
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?” Oddball
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